"Subaru < Bronco < Jeep"

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Lol I dont think they said it was one step above Subaru like a small step. They said it was definitely above Subaru and said it will cover a hugee market, from soccer moms to serious overlanders and weekend offroaders.

Like when you think about the subaru owner who is sick of subaru and wants something a lot more capable but doesnt want to deal with a Jeep. Theres Bronco.

Just not extreme offroading. Honestly they made it sound like Bronco is better than Jeep for most people and some.

They were very nice about it honestly. It even made me want one more as a second vehicle. Only Bronco fanboys get butthurt cause they wanna hear the Bronco is some offroad God that is better than a wrangler and Ford managed to make the first IFS vehicle that will doom the SFA in the world of offroading. Because thats the bulshit they got fed by all the marketing.
Nobody is saying there IFS will doom SFA and the Bronco is a God. Im not. 🤣

All I'm saying it's one of the better IFS vehicles to come out for off roading and is super capable. Also not many other new IFS vehicles out their that you can take the top and doors off, come stock with 35s and front and rear Lockers with a short wheelbase like the 2 door Ford Bronco. Let me know if you find one.

 

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Nobody is saying there IFS will doom SFA and the Bronco is a God. Im not. 🤣

All I'm saying it's one of the better IFS vehicles to come out for off roading and is super capable. Also not many other new IFS vehicles out their that you can take the top and doors off, come stock with 35s and front and rear Lockers with a short wheelbase like the 2 door Ford Bronco. Let me know if you find one.
They also said and have said in other videos the Bronco is a unique offering... Nobody is saying the Bronco is absolute crap. It is nice. But apparently people cant hear certain bad things about it.
 

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They also said and have said in other videos the Bronco is a unique offering... Nobody is saying the Bronco is absolute crap. It is nice. But apparently people cant hear certain bad things about it.
When people spend $40k+ for any vehicle it doesn't give them a warm and fuzzy feelings inside when anyone let alone a well known Youtuber takes aim and talks bad about the vehicle.

Look at how bent out of shape hardcore Jeep people get when people trash talk a Jeep. Doesn't matter the vehicle the end result is the same. The emotions are the same.

People spend hard earned money on vehicles. You can't blame them. It's just the way it is. Most of the time the criticism is just splitting hairs but then gets taken to the extreme by certain people.
 

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When people spend $40k+ for any vehicle it doesn't give them a warm and fuzzy feelings inside when anyone let alone a well known Youtuber takes aim and talks bad about the vehicle.

Look at how bent out of shape hardcore Jeep people get when people trash talk a Jeep. Doesn't matter the vehicle the end result is the same. The emotions are the same.

People spend hard earned money on vehicles. You can't blame them. It's just the way it is. Most of the time the criticism is just splitting hairs but then gets taken to the extreme by certain people.
Well that's the wrong attitude. I spent my hard earn money I expect Jeep listens and improves shitty things such as an exposed tailpipe loop thats a rock magnet, an improperly place differential drain plug, shitty 2 door front seat release mechanism, plastic parts that break when you touch them, a mediocre 2 battery ESS system, etc...

I understand getting attached to your build and all the hours and effort youve put wrenching. But getting irrationally attached to a mass produced consumer product, to the point that one cant stand legit consumer criticism, is fanaticism.

So yeah. Fanboys will flame.
 


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Nobody is saying there IFS will doom SFA and the Bronco is a God. Im not. 🤣

All I'm saying it's one of the better IFS vehicles to come out for off roading and is super capable. Also not many other new IFS vehicles out their that you can take the top and doors off, come stock with 35s and front and rear Lockers with a short wheelbase like the 2 door Ford Bronco. Let me know if you find one.
True story, this is where the bronco is unique for a IFS vehicle. There are other vehicles that have IFS, and can be wheeled, but they do not have the ability to get naked. This is where the bronco fills the gap. Where bronco suffers is they marketed it as a direct competitor to the Jeep and it is not. While it is similar, that is it. As an off road vehicle it is more in line with a Cherokee Trail Hawk or a 4Runner.
 

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You should have seen the reaction to this video in the Jeep community. There was even a video of someone interviewing one of Jeep's product management people about it.

Take a deep breath people. They are just sharing their opinion.
I believe this is the video that made their channel blow up.
 

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Well that's the wrong attitude. I spent my hard earn money I expect Jeep listens and improves shitty things such as an exposed tailpipe loop thats a rock magnet, an improperly place differential drain plug, shitty 2 door front seat release mechanism, plastic parts that break when you touch them, a mediocre 2 battery ESS system, etc...

I understand getting attached to your build and all the hours and effort youve put wrenching. But getting irrationally attached to a mass produced consumer product, to the point that one cant stand legit consumer criticism, is fanaticism.

So yeah. Fanboys will flame.
I'm just saying how people feel and act about their vehicle. Nothing we can do about it. It is what it is. I just don't like wild unfair comparisons with vehicles that aren't even in the same league for click bait. Now you want to talk about actual real issues with the vehicle Ike the interior quality and stuff like that I'm down.

My first YouTube video comes out today. And it's literally about the things I hate about my new Ford Bronco. I just got done editing it late last night. It's not the best video. I've never made a video in my life. You'd be surprised how much shit you forget to say when the camera's on. It's not easy.

When I have issues I'm not not affraid to speak about them.
 

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I believe this is the video that made their channel blow up.
It's funny. I just made my first YouTube video about 5 things I hate about my new Ford Bronco. I just got done editing it last night. It will be released today.

It's not that greatest as it's my first video. It's a lot of work. Way more then I thought. My goal is to make better videos as time goes on. This was more like a practice video for me. Lol. Well see.
 


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I watched the video and I agree without actually riding in a bronco, but from reading the write ups and watching the videos. And also owning and beating the crap out of a 5th gen 4Runner. I know how a consumer grade IFS is going to work off-road. I does in fact work better than you’d think. But it doesn’t give you the confidence when your vehicle is doing gymnastics through the rock gardens. I’d rather have my Jeep. Doesn’t mean the other vehicle isn’t capable it’s just not the same. You can throw as much money at something as you want to make it better. Dump some insane money into the bronco or a 4Runner and it’s going to kick ass. I’d rather just keep dumping insane money into the Jeep.
 

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My first YouTube video comes out today. And it's literally about the things I hate about my new Ford Bronco. I just got done editing it late last night. It's not the best video. I've never made a video in my life. You'd be surprised how much shit you forget to say when the camera's on. It's not easy.
I'm certainly no expert at this but a couple of things that have helped me...
When just recording audio off camera I write a script and read it, without trying to sound like I'm reading.
I found a readerboard app for my phone to read while recording myself. Still hard to do.

Edit: I'm looking forwards to seeing your work.

And now, back to your regular scheduled programming...
 

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Take a deep breath people. They are just sharing their opinion.

You should have seen the reaction to this video in the Jeep community.

It got to the point where our friends at TFL interviewed Jeep's chief engineer about the video.

I'm certainly no expert at this but a couple of things that have helped me...
When just recording audio off camera I write a script and read it, without trying to sound like I'm reading.
I found a readerboard app for my phone to read while recording myself. Still hard to do.

Edit: I'm looking forwards to seeing your work.

And now, back to your regular scheduled programming...
Yeah reading a script while video recording myself and talking at the same time is dam near impossible for me. 🤣

I actually found it easier just to blurt out what's on my mind. Which really isn't the best route either but it's easier for me. The problem is though i missed bunch of stuff that i wanted to say.

It's definitely going to be a learning process. Hopefully the more i do it the easier it will get and my videos will get better. Plus this is the first time I edited anything before. I still have to learn that and get good at it. It's a lot of work. And then I have to do it all over again for next week's video. 🙃
 

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Bruh, Ted is EXTREMELY well respected by a great deal of people. Not trying to silence or intimidate you, just letting you know that you're wrong. At least twice as of that post.

 

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