Stop me if you heard this before: Sport+ vs Rubi

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    Certain vehicles I'm more of "I have to be the original owner", and Wranglers are top of the list (Also Challengers and non-mopar wise, BRZ's)
     
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    Perhaps if you have 37 inch tires or bigger on the freeway. I've *never* experienced brake fade on the trail, and I've been up and down the sides of mountains in 5 states with hundreds and hundreds of lbs of gear. So maybe it's a driver issue.

    There is no difference in thickness in axle tubes between the Sport and Rubicon. Not in the JL. The Rubicon axles are 1.5 inches longer. That's the only difference (besides the D30 the sport gets in front). So to say JL Sport axles can't take 35 inch tires off road? That came right out of your ass.
     
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    Except he’s incorrect for most of it. He’s incorrect on axle thickness, shafts, etc. that’s all incorrect knowledge right there. Bigger brakes is irrelevant unless your towing or running 37’s at 60mph down the Grand Canyonlol. The sport S will suit you just fine. And you can sure as hell regear and add front and rear lockers for way under 7k.
     
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    My biggest regret buying the TJ new in 05 was not getting the RUBI. I bought an X and still love it however on the trails the 3.07 gear ratio resulted in a lot of feathering of the clutch. My uncle and two cousins all had RUBI's and it was a night and day difference crawling over obstacles. I felt feathering the clutch was dangerous for our spotters call me a novice but it lunged at times and was a lot of work. Same obstacles for a RUBI were cake :/ I never had the dough for a whole axle swap, regear and lockers. No questions asked I bought the Rubicon this go round and am stoked, its about to ship...
     
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    #21 May 23, 2019
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    Waiting patiently for the shit storm to arrive:

    "Get a Rubi its the most capable out of the box" (no shit)
    "Get a Sport you can build it how you want it" (no shit)

    Rubi owners: "Most capable out of the box"
    Sport owners: "Built not bought"

    Okay I've pretty much summed up the next 45 pages...

    Close thread.

    LOL

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    If one is rockcrawling...then 35s on a Dana 30 is really pushing the axle beyond it's design parameters. And 37s on a D44 are doing similar....it would be wise to upgrade to RCVs or at least 4340 shafts and upgraded joints in that scenario...depending on the level of trails one plans to run.
     
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    #26 May 23, 2019
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    Oh but except Im not incorrect. The inner axle shafts are bigger and have a higher spline count, and ring gear is larger. Brakes make a big difference when you have a low gear transfer case. The 4:1 tcase, 4.10 gears and stock tires you have to stand on the brakes to keep the Jeep still. If you don’t think brakes make a difference then why in the world did Jeep put them on the Rubicon? Honestly the dumbest argument of brakes I’ve heard in awhile! They only matter if you’re towing?!! Hahahaha Just because you haven’t burnt your brakes up doesn’t mean larger ones won’t be beneficial.

    A Rubicon wasn’t worth it to you guys, which is perfectly fine. Not everyone needs or can justify the cost. A sport is plenty capable.
     
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    Seems like breaking axles and housings is really about how you drive as much as what size tire and whether you rock crawl or trail ride. A guy that is careful driving is less likely to break something. I guy flying thru either the desert trails or rocks is likely to break something sooner or later, regardless of what equipment he has or where he drives.
     
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    Unlike what he claims, the Sport is also fine with 35" tires.
     
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    Good point. There was a big difference crawling in my Sport compared to a trailmate that had a Rubi. I had to work the clutch and lurched and stalled here and there. My trailmate just put it in first, took his feet off all the pedals, and steered.

    Not enough to make me wish I had a Rubi and I will be a better driver long term for it. but I don't think anyone doubts a Rubi is better when crawling. That's a "water is wet" kind of thing.
     
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