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With the extra complexity involved, E torque adds weight, So does the turbo set up. A non-E torque V6 all aluminum with plastic intake should be the lightest weight.
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Good point. I was thinking body, not diffs.curious where prople are getting their “clearance” measurements.
nothing but larger tires is going to raise the Difs or the rear lower shock mounts, which are the lowest points.
Yeah, but I don't know about you guys, but the diffs are not what I worry about or what I hit. They might be the low point, but they're aligned with the tires, and I can use the tires to protect them. Where I hit is the middle third of the vehicle, from just behind the oil pan to just behind that center cross-member.curious where prople are getting their “clearance” measurements.
nothing but larger tires is going to raise the Difs or the rear lower shock mounts, which are the lowest points.
Yeah, but I don't know about you guys, but the diffs are not what I worry about or what I hit. They might be the low point, but they're aligned with the tires, and I can use the tires to protect them. Where I hit is the middle third of the vehicle, from just behind the oil pan to just behind that center cross-member.
So for me, how high is my transmission off the ground? How high is that center cross member?
Or more specifically, how high is the point where I high-center?
And for that, the XR's tires PLUS lift probably raise my center cross member and transmission by 2.1 inches, and that means that those ledges I dragged over on Top of the World in my base Rubicon, I won't even scrape on in my XR.
Mike,Yeah, but I don't know about you guys, but the diffs are not what I worry about or what I hit. They might be the low point, but they're aligned with the tires, and I can use the tires to protect them. Where I hit is the middle third of the vehicle, from just behind the oil pan to just behind that center cross-member.
So for me, how high is my transmission off the ground? How high is that center cross member?
Or more specifically, how high is the point where I high-center?
And for that, the XR's tires PLUS lift probably raise my center cross member and transmission by 2.1 inches, and that means that those ledges I dragged over on Top of the World in my base Rubicon, I won't even scrape on in my XR.
I just read about Elephant Hill, and it looks awesome, but I hate that permitting crap. How did you get your permit? Did you just show up somewhere day-of and get one? That trail is way down south of the other stuff I like, and if I go all the way down there and am not able to drive it, that would suck hard.That would have helped quite
Mike,
Can’t wait for your second run up Top of the World, any thought on trying Elephant Hill? Would be interested in your thoughts on that trail in an XR.
Though, I would recommend going with another person if you can. I was surprised that we didn’t see another person out there all day
Permit is $6.00 on top of National Park entry fee, however as we were visiting the parks any way I already had a yearly park pass.I just read about Elephant Hill, and it looks awesome, but I hate that permitting crap. How did you get your permit? Did you just show up somewhere day-of and get one? That trail is way down south of the other stuff I like, and if I go all the way down there and am not able to drive it, that would suck hard.
My guess is you haven’t tried Holycross then.Yeah, if I am really having fun, I am in 4-low with the sway bar disconnected. And this Jeep feels really good under those conditions. And yes... I am finding more and more that I really prefer the slickrock and the red desert to Colorado wheeling. Still though, this was a beautiful drive.
As it happens, I did a trail yesterday that the Funtreks guide ranks as more difficult than Holy Cross. Stay tuned...My guess is you haven’t tried Holycross then.
Not very seriously. If I was going to do a lift and tires on the stock Rubi, I would have wanted to re-gear. And you have to do the spare tire relocate, and should do the hinge reinforcement. Costs a fortune, and we're not even into the steel knuckles, stouter axle tubes, bigger breaks that come with the XR.Mike, forgive me if you covered this, did you consider a lift and tires for your previous Jeep instead of an XR?
My thinking too, though I chatted with a guy on Fins who had the Dynatrac lift, and 315 /70 KO2s and was pretty happy with the set up.Not very seriously. If I was going to do a lift and tires on the stock Rubi, I would have wanted to re-gear. And you have to do the spare tire relocate, and should do the hinge reinforcement. Costs a fortune, and we're not even into the steel knuckles, stouter axle tubes, bigger breaks that come with the XR.
How was Fins? Have you done a full trip write-up yet? I know you did Elephant. Curious to hear the full report.My thinking too, though I chatted with a guy on Fins who had the Dynatrac lift, and 315 /70 KO2s and was pretty happy with the set up.
I’m waiting to see what the 20th anniversary package is, assuming they offer one, then I will decide. I don’t need a 392 powered monster sitting on 37s…