Steering resistance then goes away ..feels dangerous

[Jeepsterfreak]

my steering did the same thing on me Saturday morning in Moab. It was about 40 degrees headed out of town to the trail and the dam jeep didn't turn until I got under 50 or so. Scared the shit out of us both. It also did it this morning pulling out of the parking lot at very low speed.

Watch his videos. He has the same problem with steering lock up.



Here’s another one. This guy got FCA to replace his Rubi with a new one

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[Jkohler]

Ya I've seen them. I was feeling good about mine then Saturday I got a taste of it. It's bull shit there hasn't been a huge recall on this crap. It scared my wife really bad she didn't want to ride in it anymore.

 

[shotcoach]

I’m having the same issue. Just started this week. Only happens right after start up in cooler weather but pretty much goes away as the Jeep warms up. Not sure how to get it to the dealer and have them reproduce it unless I camp in the lot the night before. Lol.

Hope to hear soon that you got it fixed and how it got fixed.

 

[Rubi04TJ]

I have the same issue and it certainly is weather related. It all but disappeared during the summer and now that it is down in the 40s and 30s it has come back randomly. It almost feels like full lock and then lets go forcing a oversteer situation. I noticed this only really happens at or about 50mph.

I mentioned it to the dealer and they could not duplicate, and I can't make it happen as it just seems to be random

 

[Jeepsterfreak]

You guys should try to capture video.

Maybe do this in a large empty lot and have a passenger video or set up a cam.

That will get FCA and NHTSA’s attention real quick. The more complaints the better.

Definitely file a complaint with NHTSA even without video.

https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/

How is your steering otherwise? I suspect that those who had good steering with no deadspot are starting to experience lock up in cold weather. Those that had loose steering with deadspots are now noticing their steering is better in cold weather until their steering box reaches operating temp and then feels loose again.

 

[Periokid]

I suspect that those who had good steering with no deadspot are starting to experience lock up in cold weather. Those that had loose steering with deadspots are now noticing their steering is better in cold weather until their steering box reaches operating temp and then feels loose again.

This is dead on. These steering boxes are the biggest part of the problem IMO. There are other factors with the wandering and loose steering but the box is the worst part of the failures. Too loose initially makes it better when cold. Tight initial box feels good until it gets cold and now they are binding. You just can't win.

 

[Scipax]

This is dead on. These steering boxes are the biggest part of the problem IMO. There are other factors with the wandering and loose steering but the box is the worst part of the failures. Too loose initially makes it better when cold. Tight initial box feels good until it gets cold and now they are binding. You just can't win.

This makes sense as I've experienced the exact same thing. Steering felt perfect all summer but now that the mornings are in the 30's and 40's here in Colorado, my steering above 55mph is so tight I can't turn the steering wheel without a ton of force, then it suddenly jerks to whichever direction I'm trying to go, causing sudden oversteer. This is NOT what I'd expect from new a vehicle, regardless of make/model/cost. This is dangerous! Is there any official documentation on this issue @JeepCares?

 

[DougJaneway]

Supposedly TSB 08-092-18 corrects this. I'm going to take mine in and have them do it. Also, I figured out if you warm the jeep up 5-10 minutes and let it get to operating temperature the problem goes away for me.

 

[Threxx]

I experienced this exact same issue driving my family home yesterday afternoon. It was probably 45 degrees F, and the binding was only when turning left above 55-60 mph... if I pushed hard enough it would 'let go' all of a sudden and we'd swerve to the left. It lasted maybe 10-15 minutes.

For us it wasn't too bad because the highway we were on didn't have too tight of turns, but it was still bad enough that my wife was getting motion sick from me swerving, and if a cop was behind us I'm certain I would have been pulled over on suspicion of drunk driving.

I'm certain this could lead to serious injuries or death if it occurred when a person was needing to take a tighter turn. Even if they could overcome the resistance, it could cause them to swerve into the car next to them, or off the side of the road, or lose control.

 

[offrampclimber]

Supposedly TSB 08-092-18 corrects this. I'm going to take mine in and have them do it. Also, I figured out if you warm the jeep up 5-10 minutes and let it get to operating temperature the problem goes away for me.

Yes, definitely, this service bulletin corrects the issue. I started having similar problems once the weather turned cold; asked the dealer to apply the steps in this TSB, and the issue went away, plus the Jeep steers much better now.

 

[Rob]

I had the same problem on my JLUR that has 8600 miles on it. First cold day, 15 degrees, traveling just over 60 mph road turned to the left. Only able to turn wheel to about the 10 o'clock position. Had to take a right turn at the upcoming intersection instead. Brought it in to dealer who updated the firmware according to TSB 08-092-18. So far have not had the same problem.

 

[Jeepsterfreak]

Here’s the link to the TSB. Hopefully it fixes the problem you are experiencing.

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...sist-steering-lockup-at-highway-speeds.12226/

 

[Jeepsterfreak]

I know everone is blaming the steering box and I don’t disagree but wondering if the problem can be isolated. You could do some garage testing like in this video when it’s cold outside. Do the same test with the drag link removed from the pitman arm to see if the results are the same. You could also remove the steering damper. What if there is binding in the steering damper at certain temps that is causing resistance? In another thread, a dealer tech stated the steering damper part # has been updated from AB to AC. Just thinking out loud.

 

[Sbnewsom]

Hi offcamber,

We are terribly sorry to hear that you had this negative experience in your Jeep. Please send us a private message with your VIN, mileage, and preferred dealer. We would like to investigate this further and document the experience on your behalf.

Darlene
Jeep Social Care Specialist

Hi offcamber,

We are terribly sorry to hear that you had this negative experience in your Jeep. Please send us a private message with your VIN, mileage, and preferred dealer. We would like to investigate this further and document the experience on your behalf.

Darlene
Jeep Social Care Specialist

What's the latest @JeepCares? I don't think confidence in the steering of your $45,000 vehicle is too much to ask.

 

[photowiz]

During the summer months, temps 85-95 had what I call "sloppy" steering. It was a dead spot right in the center, an inch to 1 1/2 inch either side of center. Took it to the dealer to have them do the TSB 08-092-18 flash talked about on this forum. What a difference!! It fixed the problem instantly. Huge improvement. The temperature is now 30's-40's in the morning and steering is still perfect. I haven't experienced the "lock up" yet and hope I never do. Hoping the TSB 08-092-18 flash corrected the problem before I experienced it.

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