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I've been waiting for an open-top, off-road capable "diesel something" since I owned my first diesel back in 2002. Since then I lived about 7 years in Germany and the majority of my vehicles were diesel. When I heard FCA was going to make a Wrangler diesel, I was actually pretty skeptical at first and questioned if it would really make it to production. To me it seems like the days of diesel are numbered in the light duty market. The diesel complexity and cost keeps climbing and the efficiency gap with gasoline is narrowing. Nearly half of the total engine volume is now dedicated to exhaust and after-treatment, and more than half of the sensors, actuators, and controls complexity is emissions related. On top of that public opinion on diesel is probably at an all time low due to several recent scandals (including FCA). I ordered a diesel because I feel like it might be my last chance to get one in the type of vehicle I want and I will continue to wait because I have little faith that this option will exist long term. This is my first Wrangler and I suspect that if I ever own another, it will be electric.
I don’t know if diesels are on their way out here in the states, actually I think it’s the other way. Ford, Chevy, and Ram all now offer a small diesel in their 1500 series trucks, Jeep is putting in the Wrangler and Gladiator, and even Mazda has a diesel option in the states. Yes the German auto manufacturers are getting away from it, but thankfully the big 3 seem to be just getting into it.



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Whoa... There are rednecks in Alaska?... :whatsgoingon:
 
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Whoa... There are rednecks in Alaska?... :whatsgoingon:
I grew up on a farm and then decided to get into white collar work after college. You know the old saying...you can take the boy out of the farm...

ETA: also seems like half the Mat-Su valley is gulf coast and Oklahoma transplants. We get along just fine despite me being a yankee.
 

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I'm not sure what gets installed at the Body Vendor vs. the assembly line.
I do have the dual top group so they had to put the soft top in the back.

JLUR, Diesel, Auto
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When my dealer responded to my email he stated the following was occurring in the “JB” status:

Your Jeep is in JB status which is shipped to body vendor. This is where it will get the Rubicon Hood, Body Top, Dual Top, Trailer Tow, ect. (Is installed)
 

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I don’t know if diesels are on their way out here in the states, actually I think it’s the other way. Ford, Chevy, and Ram all now offer a small diesel in their 1500 series trucks, Jeep is putting in the Wrangler and Gladiator, and even Mazda has a diesel option in the states. Yes the German auto manufacturers are getting away from it, but thankfully the big 3 seem to be just getting into it.
Totally agree about the trucks, there seems to be expansion in that area for sure and that makes sense, but outside trucks, XXL SUVs and commercial vans, I think the Wrangler is an outlier. I had forgotten about Mazda Skyactive D (do they offer a 2020 diesel option?), but otherwise the only other diesel SUV I could think of was Land Rover. Don't get me wrong, I would love more diesel options just don't see that lasting in this segment. I hope I'm wrong but it would not surprise me to see the diesel as a Gladiator only option at some point for Jeep.
 

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Totally agree about the trucks, there seems to be expansion in that area for sure and that makes sense, but outside trucks, XXL SUVs and commercial vans, I think the Wrangler is an outlier. I had forgotten about Mazda Skyactive D (do they offer a 2020 diesel option?), but otherwise the only other diesel SUV I could think of was Land Rover. Don't get me wrong, I would love more diesel options just don't see that lasting in this segment. I hope I'm wrong but it would not surprise me to see the diesel as a Gladiator only option at some point for Jeep.
I forgot to mention that GM is also offering their new diesel in the Yukon and the Suburban as well.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ca...173547/2021-chevy-suburban-tahoe-photos-info/
 

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I forgot to mention that GM is also offering their new diesel in the Yukon and the Suburban as well.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ca...173547/2021-chevy-suburban-tahoe-photos-info/
...and I agree large segment diesel is growing but midsize diesel keeps shrinking. In the last couple of years, there were about a dozen mid size SUVs in the US market with diesel options . In 2020 I think the options are down to a couple (including the Wrangler). I suspect that the only reason Land/Range Rover and Wrangler can offer the option is because they are less price sensitive than other models. Just my opinion and I am happy to be wrong :)
 

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...and I agree large segment diesel is growing but midsize diesel keeps shrinking. In the last couple of years, there were about a dozen mid size SUVs in the US market with diesel options . In 2020 I think the options are down to a couple (including the Wrangler). I suspect that the only reason Land/Range Rover and Wrangler can offer the option is because they are less price sensitive than other models. Just my opinion and I am happy to be wrong :)
Time will tell. If my new 3.0 winds up being a headache then I guess it won’t matter if they stop making the diesels. Fingers are crossed they have the previous gen Ecodiesel issues ironed out.
 

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Finally got my window sticker today, don’t want to get to excited, but might actually have this within 5 months of ordering? I’m only 141 miles from Toledo, so I should at least have a shot! I’ll check in with my dealer tomorrow and hopefully learn something.
 

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Tom: Can you add me to the spreadsheet.

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I added you but the most I could see was Black leather seats...if you can take another pic of the whole sheet I will fill it in!
 

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Finally got my window sticker today, don’t want to get to excited, but might actually have this within 5 months of ordering? I’m only 141 miles from Toledo, so I should at least have a shot! I’ll check in with my dealer tomorrow and hopefully learn something.
Almost there!
 

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I grew up on a farm and then decided to get into white collar work after college. You know the old saying...you can take the boy out of the farm...

ETA: also seems like half the Mat-Su valley is gulf coast and Oklahoma transplants. We get along just fine despite me being a yankee.
I am a Red Neck too, but being born in Washington DC and living in Virginia...I was country...but in Texas they still call me Yankee! lol
 

                           
























































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