It's a light and enjoyable discussion for some of us. No need for speech patrol. Nobody is forced to open it or read it.last I knew this is JL Wrangler Forum, why do people including Ford marketing people come over here and discuss Broncos and stir up shit when they now have their own Forums???
and yes the moderators should move all off brand threads/topics to this section.
https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/forums/other-vehicles-general-automotive-chat.6/
That raptor is pig heavy ....
lol, you’re funny. But as I have replied previously, I’m not the one who even brought the Bronco up...I replied with a post about a 2004 Dodge RAM. You and the other fella went off about all the Bronco stuff.last I knew this is JL Wrangler Forum, why do people including Ford marketing people come over here and discuss Broncos and stir up shit when they now have their own Forums???
and yes the moderators should move all off brand threads/topics to this section.
https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/forums/other-vehicles-general-automotive-chat.6/
Hope so, though I doubt we'll see the hellcat motor in a Wrangler from the factory. Who knows tho! Maybe they're willing to sell a vehicle that will get 7 mpg on the highway.
It wouldn't hurt my feelings. My days of thirsty, fuel-guzzling v8s are long gone. It's why I went to diesel 15 or so years ago - I was tired of filling the tanks on the v8 trucks. The diesels were destroying them in terms of fuel economy.
. Those guys know how to have fun!
Any mention of $$$?Met a few nice peeps on the trail - it’s confirmed for Spring 2021
Also, apparently some engineers have had some fun stuffing a 700hp HC in one
Overheard we‘ll be seeing 35s from the factory next refresh.
I was told by an FCA marketing rep that it was NOT going to happen but if it does look at the price of the 700HP Dodge Durango, it's what $100K plus and they can't make it past 2021 because of CAFE requirements. If they do stuff that motor into a production Jeep, you can bet it will be expensive and limited production, then there is the insurance angle. But then again I was told two years ago by an engineer at Moab and SEMA that a production Hemi Wrangler won't ever be built and the marketing rep confirmed that to me earlier this year pre-Covid.
They have pre-production units (not sure how many) that are making the rounds to various off-road parks/events and dealerships.
John - I think you are spot on. High 60s is what I would expect for the 392. That would seem to be more inline with market expectations as well. More powerful motors definitely would be special editions and big money. IMO
It is interesting. I was talking to a fella at the gas station who had a really nice F350 diesel. Sounded really cool. We got to talking and his take was a bit different. His take on "fuel economy" was a little different. He said sure when you look just at MPG it is better, HOWEVER no one wants to talk about the price of diesel is usually always higher and the other elephant no one that is a diesel lover likes to mention the cost and added PITA DEF is. He was not that sold on the benefits of diesel other than TORQUE. He needed that for what he used his truck for so that was the ONLY reason he preferred diesel.
Mopar V8’s are notorious gas guzzlers. My 2014, 2 wheel drive Grand Cherokee with the 5.7 hemi is lucky to break over 14 mpg in the city. If this Wrangler goes into production, count on 12 mpg. The poor aerodynamics will be the biggest hurt on mpg.
