He will be one of those idiot owners who will buy a JL and then complain about reliability because its transfer case keeps on breaking as the 4LO cannot handle highway speeds lmaoI bet douchebag will go buy a Wrangler tomorrow and still be an idiot.
This!It’s the driver, not the car. My other car is a 2006 Audi A4 wagon and I will take that with snow tires over the jeep on snowy roads any day. Sure, the jeep will get through the deep stuff the Audi doesn’t have clearance for but if we are talking traction, a low center of gravity, snow tires and awd will hold the road better than my wrangler 35” KO2’s any day of the week. I am also on Long Island and was out early yesterday In my wrangler. Kudos to you for helping pull the Audi out after that. Although I’m typically inclined to help in that situation I may have smiled and waved as I drove past.
I have a similar setup, BMW 328 AWD Wagon with Blizzaks. While the OE Cooper All Seasons were garbage in the snow, the winter tires, AWD, and manual transmission are amazing, up to the point it gets too deep of course. I don't have snow driving experience to compare to the Jeep yet.My other car is a 2006 Audi A4 wagon and I will take that with snow tires over the jeep on snowy roads any day. Sure, the jeep will get through the deep stuff the Audi doesn’t have clearance for but if we are talking traction, a low center of gravity, snow tires and awd will hold the road better than my wrangler 35” KO2’s any day of the week.
This^^^It’s the driver, not the car. My other car is a 2006 Audi A4 wagon and I will take that with snow tires over the jeep on snowy roads any day. Sure, the jeep will get through the deep stuff the Audi doesn’t have clearance for but if we are talking traction, a low center of gravity, snow tires and awd will hold the road better than my wrangler 35” KO2’s any day of the week. I am also on Long Island and was out early yesterday In my wrangler. Kudos to you for helping pull the Audi out after that. Although I’m typically inclined to help in that situation I may have smiled and waved as I drove past.
Yup - I did a year of school in NW PA with a 1990 Buick Skylark. Got a total of 6ft of snow that season...never saw grass from the week before thanksgiving until the end of April, and I was never unable to get to where I wanted to go either. That was FWD on all-seasons. You learn how to maintain control without traction.I don’t know about all this 4x4, awd talk. I lived in Buffalo for 5 years for college. My parents stuck me up there with a 4 door Saturn that weighed like 100 lbs soaking wet. Damn car was all plastic. And I never ever got stuck or slid off the road. I got everywhere. Never missed a day of skiing. I think that’s why I’m so good in snow now back home.
UH...NO. Extremely no. Definitely overpriced...and overengineered DOES NOT equal quality. As a former BMW enthusiast and career engineer, I can tell you that German engineering is some of the most mind-boggling work on earth. Furthermore, that headlight being used as an example in this thread is engineered in Japan and made in China, right alongside the Lexus and Cadillac headlights.As for the cost of German parts, you get what you pay for. Are they overpriced? Yep. Is the overall design and engineering better than American made? Yep.
I disagree. My Honda Element's "real-time 4WD" was essentially an AWD system. I have NEVER gotten stuck in it or lost traction to where I was not going in the direction I intended, in snowy conditions. And this was my first car, driven for 15 years as a dumb 18 year old onward. It was WAY better than my FWD vehicles. I have no idea how it compares to my JT, it hasn't snowed here yet.The funny part is that an AWD car is only very slightly more capable than an equivalent FWD car. Really the only difference is that if you get stopped on a hill and need to get started again, the FWD car might be stuck whereas the AWD car should be ok. Out on a snow-covered but plowed road where you can get some speed, there is zero difference between AWD and FWD on the same car. In fact, that AWD system is probably functioning in FWD mode at that point anyway.
My JLU and Tahoe can do in 2WD what those "Audi drivers" think they need AWD to do. Get to where I need 4WD, and that Audi ain't movin.
Shame they insist on learning that the hard way.