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So do we just ignore how bad the jeeps ride??

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I don't think the OP even has a Jeep. He may have test drove one, but if he did it certainly didn't ride worse than previous solid axle vehicles he drove that were 30 years old and worn out. This whole thread is because of him trolling to see what kind of response he could get.

Having said that, there are a whole lot of poorly set up Jeeps out there. I have test driven used Jeeps several times in the past, and it is very common to find a Jeep that someone else has already modified, and done a bad job of it. One of the Jeeps I test drove a few years back I considered to be unsafe at any speed.

A lot of Jeep owners blame Jeep for their poor set up and poor maintenance. One of the people in this thread complained about recurrent death wobble, even though all he has done to fix the problem is replace the steering stabilizer. The problem isn't the steering stabilizer. I don't think we can blame Jeep for an owner doing a half a$$ed job of modifying or maintaining their vehicle.

My 392 had started feeling like the steering was loosening up after two years in Moab and the Rubicon trail, while running 37s. I had my wife turn the steering wheel back and forth while I watched the tie rod ends on the steering components and found there was movement in the tie rod ends, indicating excess wear. Instead of complaining about the steering of my Jeep I replaced the worn parts with better parts, I chose a MetalCloak tie rod and drag link, and Dynatrac ball joints.

The mechanic I use is the crew chief for a desert race team that runs two trophy trucks. He drove my Jeep after installing the new steering parts, to center the steering wheel, and said he was amazed how rock solid and precise the steering felt. He said that he didn't own a vehicle that drove that good. After driving the Jeep I agreed, it drives much better than brand new. On a day with no wind, I can drive on a straight section of interstate with the cruise control set on 85 mph and go for up to a mile at times without having to ever correct steering. It tracks absolutely straight as an arrow. And with Accutuned Fox DSC shocks it also rides very well.

So if you're having problems with your Jeep, don't complain about it, check your set up and fix it. Replace worn parts with better parts. There is no reason to have a bad driving Jeep.
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Did you ever think there might be a conspiracy by the treehuggers to neuter the Jeep so eventually you don't have any vehicles that can really travel off road?

All these gov "mandates" like states not able to sell ICE vehicles in the not so distant future. Or going electric (electrics have lousy range off-highway, so you can't go too far off the beaten path). Or the corporate mpg benchmarks makers have to meet? Or closing off public lands for nebulous reasons?

Maybe it is all part of a bigger conspiracy. Think about it.
You can travel off road on a horse...but then the money you spent on a winch would be wasted.
 

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Oh man, ... the horse died.
 

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I’ve talked to several other wrangler owners varying from stock, fox, to my metalcloak 6pak setup and then I finally drove a new one at the dealership last week. We all recognize it’s a solid axle and is ideal for crawling but how is it soo bad. I’ve driven vintage land cruisers, scouts, travelalls, these wrangler ride like shit. Have you guys just made peace with it? Obviously im able to just sell, snag something new and move on but genuinely curious how you enthusiasts feel about it.
What vintadge LCs have you driven that drive better than “your” Jeep?
I own a 1985 BJ71 imported from Japan. It is 100% stock and in pristine conditions.
My 2018 JL with a 5.5” lift and 38s ride like a Cadillac compared to it.
If I compare my JL to my 2023 BMW X6, of course it drives like shit, but each one was built for different purposes and have it advantages over the other depending on what you use them for.
 

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I had to rent a BMW X5 wagon while i was waitingfor my 24 rubcion, You would think it it would be plush. It wasn't with low profile tires it was surprisingly a stiff ride. Interesrting it would send up a warning that said WARNING: rough pavement...... I think my jeep rides way better. 2024 rubicon x
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