Update on my original post. I ended up doing a little more research and looked at dozens more wheel options in 18" diameter. The consensus was the majority of wheels that caught my eye and met my criteria for a more positive offset weighed at least (36 lbs) if not more than the Black Rhino Barstows which I had ordered in from Discount Tire Direct. These wheels included several Fuel Wheels and KMC XD Wheels. Long story short, I ended up taking a chance and had the Black Rhino Barstow wheels mounted and installed on my JL Sahara Unlimited and couldn't be more happy that I did. So far I have not noticed any change in acceleration that I was concerned about. The 3.45 gearing with the 8 speed auto transmission is handling the added weight on each corner quite well. I give myself a little more breaking distance but this I was expecting regardless. And just as important, I am quite pleased with the quality and aesthetics of the Black Rhino Barstow wheel. I still have to install my Rough Country spare tire extender and pair my Tazer JL Lite. Here are a couple of pictures of the wheels installed on Mastercraft Courser MXTs.I have spent countless hours researching wheels and tires to find the optimal wheel/tire combination for my needs. One of the considerations was not only the weight of the tire but the weight of the wheel. I selected an 18" tire (Mastercraft Courser MXT, 295x70x18, weight 61 lb) and the Black Rhino Barstow in matte black (18x9 with +30 offset). I wanted a more positive offset as I like my tires more tucked in as opposed to poking out for various reasons. The issue I am now having is that after finally receiving the wheels from Discount Tire Direct (they were special ordered), the wheels in my opinion weigh significantly more than what I was told. The rep from DTD told me 29 lbs. I then personally called and spoke to a Black Rhino rep and he told me 26 lb. These weights had me thoroughly excited about the wheel I had selected. So today I personally weighed the wheel and it weighs 36 lb. That is a huge discrepancy in my opinion. How could the quoted weights be so far off?
So my question is am I making too much of a deal out of how much each wheel weighs? Should I be concerned about combined weight of 97 lbs. on each corner vs the anticipated 87 - 90 lbs. I was expecting? Am I overthinking this? Any advice/opinions are welcome. I tentatively have an appointment for install of wheels and tires in less than 24 hours.
Here are what the wheels look like:
I used the Tazer lite to reprogram for my larger tires. This adjusted the shift points as well. On paper, the weight of my new wheel (Black Rhino Barstow, 18x8, +30) plus tire (Mastercraft Courser MXT, 295-70-18) combination was 97 lbs. I did not notice any significant difference in acceleration or performance when compared to stock set up. I do notice the difference in breaking and stopping but I expected that and have adjusted my driving habits to allow more distance when I break. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the info. Those tires are on my shortlist as well. It’s a great looking set-up. I hear they are pretty quiet for mt tires as well.
I've been working on selecting tires for a 2019 JL Rubicon, Weight is important to me. My 2012 with 35x12.50/R17 Nitto Trail Grapplers didn't hold up as well as my 2016 with the same tire in a 285/75/R18. I want to go back to a larger tire, here's what I have so far:
Love it! Sting Gray rocks and the Black Rhino rims are a great match. I'm leaning toward the Black Rhino Armory, thinking the finish may be a little lighter gray but it couldn't look any better than yours!Update on my original post. I ended up doing a little more research and looked at dozens more wheel options in 18" diameter. The consensus was the majority of wheels that caught my eye and met my criteria for a more positive offset weighed at least (36 lbs) if not more than the Black Rhino Barstows which I had ordered in from Discount Tire Direct. These wheels included several Fuel Wheels and KMC XD Wheels. Long story short, I ended up taking a chance and had the Black Rhino Barstow wheels mounted and installed on my JL Sahara Unlimited and couldn't be more happy that I did. So far I have not noticed any change in acceleration that I was concerned about. The 3.45 gearing with the 8 speed auto transmission is handling the added weight on each corner quite well. I give myself a little more breaking distance but this I was expecting regardless. And just as important, I am quite pleased with the quality and aesthetics of the Black Rhino Barstow wheel. I still have to install my Rough Country spare tire extender and pair my Tazer JL Lite. Here are a couple of pictures of the wheels installed on Mastercraft Courser MXTs.
Hey , Rob here, also a PA. love the ride... looking to get the same set up for my JLUR. Wondering if the wheels stick out pass the fenders at all or are they just in line with them? thanksI have spent countless hours researching wheels and tires to find the optimal wheel/tire combination for my needs. One of the considerations was not only the weight of the tire but the weight of the wheel. I selected an 18" tire (Mastercraft Courser MXT, 295x70x18, weight 61 lb) and the Black Rhino Barstow in matte black (18x9 with +30 offset). I wanted a more positive offset as I like my tires more tucked in as opposed to poking out for various reasons. The issue I am now having is that after finally receiving the wheels from Discount Tire Direct (they were special ordered), the wheels in my opinion weigh significantly more than what I was told. The rep from DTD told me 29 lbs. I then personally called and spoke to a Black Rhino rep and he told me 26 lb. These weights had me thoroughly excited about the wheel I had selected. So today I personally weighed the wheel and it weighs 36 lb. That is a huge discrepancy in my opinion. How could the quoted weights be so far off?
So my question is am I making too much of a deal out of how much each wheel weighs? Should I be concerned about combined weight of 97 lbs. on each corner vs the anticipated 87 - 90 lbs. I was expecting? Am I overthinking this? Any advice/opinions are welcome. I tentatively have an appointment for install of wheels and tires in less than 24 hours.
Here are what the wheels look like:
Hey Rob. The wheels were right in line. I did not want all that poke and then the spray from the tires constantly hitting the side of my Jeep.
Thanks. I see you got 18x9 +30 offset. Didn't know they came in 9.... I do like the look of them sticking out just a bit and the guy at a local shop here said he could get them in 18x9.5 and i think those are -18 offset... I wonder if thats a bit too far out
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-18 offset would sit out too far for my liking
Hello sir, great wheels on your rigs there. I’m currently planning on getting a 315/70R17 tires with 17x9 rims, however, most i’ve seen have negative offset which makes it the tire poke out further from the fender.Update on my original post. I ended up doing a little more research and looked at dozens more wheel options in 18" diameter. The consensus was the majority of wheels that caught my eye and met my criteria for a more positive offset weighed at least (36 lbs) if not more than the Black Rhino Barstows which I had ordered in from Discount Tire Direct. These wheels included several Fuel Wheels and KMC XD Wheels. Long story short, I ended up taking a chance and had the Black Rhino Barstow wheels mounted and installed on my JL Sahara Unlimited and couldn't be more happy that I did. So far I have not noticed any change in acceleration that I was concerned about. The 3.45 gearing with the 8 speed auto transmission is handling the added weight on each corner quite well. I give myself a little more breaking distance but this I was expecting regardless. And just as important, I am quite pleased with the quality and aesthetics of the Black Rhino Barstow wheel. I still have to install my Rough Country spare tire extender and pair my Tazer JL Lite. Here are a couple of pictures of the wheels installed on Mastercraft Courser MXTs.
