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Wow, surprised your post hasn't been censored or deleted (yet). It's been just over 15 minutes.

I'm back in the Detroit area temporarily (Ypsilanti) for my daughter's wedding. I grew up in Metro Detroit, north of the city in Macomb, Oakland and Genesee counties. Fraser, Waterford and Grand Blanc respectively. Pretty much conservative suburban Generica. I grew up in Fraser, my kids grew up in the other two (and mostly in Colorado). All wonderful places. But yes you certainly had to avoid Detroit proper like the plague. Grossly mismanaged just like most other urban centers. No one I knew was ever proud of Detroit, perhaps except for the Red Wings.

Good sound advice to have protection when traveling there. Drugs, gangs, graft have really been dominant for many (many) decades. But it seems (to me) that's exactly the way they like it. They can of course continue to vote whichever way they want. But living or even visiting near there, Detroit city itself should be off-limits for safety's sake. It's a desperate place and always has been within my lifetime.

Change is certainly what is needed. But never does, at least not for the better. Maybe (just maybe) Detroiters will wise up and see that a brighter future is possible. They just can't continue to do the same thing each and every election cycle. Yet, they do. It's both sad and frustrating. Growing up, I really wanted to be proud of Detroit. Eventually and infortunately I just felt we had to leave not only the Detroit area but Michigan altogether.

Argh, Denver is getting much (much) worse as well...

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Where the fuck-stan do you guys live that makes you think you need to draw from inside the vehicle? 😆

If it's that important to you, use a chest rig mount on your seatbelt.
San Antonio TX. Sketchy people and sketchy situations all over. Not just limited to the south side anymore.
 

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Why do guys with guns have the wettest panties?
Lawful and responsible gun owners of both genders (yes only two) are indeed the sexiest. They're level headed, polite, respectful, kind and certainly the most welcoming people on the planet. I'd rather be around a concealed (or even open) carry person over any indoctrinated woke individual any time and twice on Sundays.

Why is it that wokeness promotes inclusivity on everything EXCEPT a difference of opinion? Wake up already and appreciate everyone for who they are. And especially what they carry!
 

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Lawful and responsible gun owners of both genders (yes only two) are indeed the sexiest. They're level headed, polite, respectful, kind and certainly the most welcoming people on the planet. I'd rather be around a concealed (or even open) carry person over any indoctrinated woke individual any time and twice on Sundays.

Why is it that wokeness promotes inclusivity on everything EXCEPT a difference of opinion? Wake up already and appreciate everyone for who they are. And especially what they carry!
What does woke mean exactly?
And since you mentioned Sundays, who would be more woke than Jesus?
Or would he like a good off colored joke every once in a while? While he's packing off course.
BTW I'm very anti PC but I'm not woke enough to get offended by woke people.
 

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What does woke mean exactly?
And since you mentioned Sundays, who would be more woke than Jesus?
Or would he like a good off colored joke every once in a while? While he's packing off course.
BTW I'm very anti PC but I'm not woke enough to get offended by woke people.
I too will never be woke enough by intent. Woke (to me) is someone who truly believes that they are enlightened enough to know what's right (for everyone and everything) but wrong enough to not realize how closed minded they really are.

Everyone has the God-given right to their own personal opinions and choices that they may make and shouldn't be branded in any negative sense because of it. Individualism, not collectivism makes society better. Truly better. A melting pot of cultures, ideas and visions offer a much better way of living. I'd much prefer living with your (and everyone else's) viewpoints. Much better in fact than a bunch of mindlessly numb but entitled lemmings.

Personal responsibility is sorely lacking. It's never anybody's fault, we're now simply victims of someone else's unrighteousness. Worse, if anyone is found quilty of something (anything) and God-forbid of the sin of not towing the politically correct line, they now are, or soon will be, unmercifully canceled.

Sorry, but I can never be an advocate of any of that. Label me whatever you want. I'll carry that with a badge of honor. You are after all entitled to say whatever you want. Our Constitution protects us for just that. I'm a Marine that will always defend it.

And I too won't be offended.

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I lived in Chicago for 10 years and I've now lived in Milwaukee for three and a half years... the only shooting I've ever been in the middle of was a mall in a very Republican Wisconsin suburb... I was in the back of a store when the shooting happened, but it happened right where I was three minutes earlier.

And when we're talking about mass shootings, how many times has it been a "libtard" pulling the trigger?

BTW, I don't want laws to take your guns away. Most of my friends and I who do lean left are pretty pragmatic... could it be that that perceptions of both sides are distorted?
 

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My gun is typically in a holster, with that said, driving in Detroit... the city, not the HWY, my gun is muzzle down in the cup holder.

I do not buy gas in Detroit. For fun do a YouTube search of Detroit gas stations. or click the link.

Detroit Gas Station search on Youtube

I am thinking that you have not been in some of the cities in the US outside of the safe zones. Hell there are places in Detroit, that the cops do not go. There are places that if an ambulance is called, it does not go unless there is a police escort.

Not to get all political but the majority of these terrible cities have been long term controlled by the democratic party. Like for decades. By control, I mean the Mayor, the city counsel, the police chief and prosecuting attorney office have been a democrat for decades. To me this is not political, just factual. It is an easy google search to find the most dangerous cities in the US and it is easy to find that those cities are long term democratically controlled.
Sadly DC, Baltimore, Chicago, San Francisco all have such areas now. The value of human life has become zero quite quickly.

The only time I've ever had to draw a weapon was filling up with gas at 11pm in DC in an area called Kenilworth. I had flown back into town and hopped in the Jeep and didn't realize I was so low on fuel (I still think I was syphoned at the airport parking lot). Anyhow I knew once past this area no stations for quite some time down the highway so stupidly stopped. How bad could it really be????

If I did not have gun, and did not holster it when getting out of the Jeep to fuel I am quite certain I would not be here today.

Many do not believe we have cities like this in the US but we really do.....

The shoplifting and theft in the malls is also rapidly getting to a point of violence; my daughter was pepper sprayed last week as someone dashed from the store she works in. The perp pepper sprayed several workers as he ran out to not be chased or reported quickly.
 

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This mount is from atachmounts.com out of the state of Washington. It simply snaps into place without ANY modifications to the Jeep. Mounted here in a 21 Willy's 2 door. You customize the gun fit before installation. I fit it for my Glock 22 and found out the same secure snap setting works for my Glocks 17, 19, 23, and 21! I live in rural Nevada (Douglas County/Lake Tahoe Area) where almost everyone carries, not so much for self-defense as our armed society is a very polite society. This is Rubicon Country. When driving down the road I see nearly 8/10 vehicles are off-road capable. It seems every 3-4 cars are Jeeps! Even SXS are legal on the roads! We worry more about evil critters than anything else. The best place to carry is on our bodies, but when out in the backcountry (which is basically our back yard) this is a very secure place to keep your handgun close by but not irritating you while you're crawling around the hills. It would stay put even in a rollover. Also, it has a secured velcro pouch for an additional magazine! I give it a 5/5! Once installed, due to the very tight fit via snap hooks on each end, removing it would most likely destroy the mount, but cause NO harm to the panel.

Now if you live someplace that is not gun-friendly, and you have a CCW then the only safe place to carry is on your body. If you want to stay up with the basic skills of shooting (not self Defense techniques to stay out of jail) you should consider Cowboy Fast Draw. To learn to stay out of jail visit the USCCA website. I have an indoor laser system that allows me to practice anytime I want. Fernley Nevada is the world headquarters with Cal Elrich as the owner/CEO (Quick Cal) With his help (in person and a Great Video) I have learned to draw and shoot a 24" body size target consistently at .451-.650 seconds (my best time is .451) from my HIP with a SINGLE ACTION REVOLVER! To be competitive that time needs to be .350 consistently. I can now point my gun at any target in my house and hit it without using the sights. People here talk about muscle memory, and this will do that for you. With practice, you become one with the gun. It is the fastest-growing shooting sport in the country. Check them out on youtube. It really is a lot of FUN! "Come for the shooting, stay for the people" If you join, they require an alias which makes it even more fun. Most people don't know each other's real names. Mine is "Doc Ricochet" because I was a Chiropractor and my real name is Rick. For the matches, you dress up in clothes from the 1800s. I model mine after Doc Holliday (Val Kilmer) from Tombstone. Ok, as Mark Twain was quoted, "Don't pass up an opportunity to make this the best day of your life"
 

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Where the fuck-stan do you guys live that makes you think you need to draw from inside the vehicle? 😆

If it's that important to you, use a chest rig mount on your seatbelt.
Hmmm, I don't know? Ask the Jeeper that was shot and killed on trail in Sequoia, followed by his 12 year old son hiding in the woods for 32 hours from the shooter.

I realize its different up there in Brandon country , but wake up a bit.
 

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Hmmm, I don't know? Ask the Jeeper that was shot and killed on trail in Sequoia, followed by his 12 year old son hiding in the woods for 32 hours from the shooter.

I realize its different up there in Brandon country , but wake up a bit.
I carry almost everywhere I go, so don't bother lecturing to, or getting high and mighty with me. My weapon doesn't leave my body because that's where I will need it. It goes where I go.

Your opinions are yours, but I see no need to display my protection to anyone at any time.
 

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I carry almost everywhere I go, so don't bother lecturing to, or getting high and mighty with me. My weapon doesn't leave my body because that's where I will need it. It goes where I go.

Your opinions are yours, but I see no need to display my protection to anyone at any time.
Therefore anyone on this post opinions are theirs, and do not need you questioning their motives.
 

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Therefore anyone on this post opinions are theirs, and do not need you questioning their motives.
And you shouldn't be making assumptions.
 

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I lived in Chicago for 10 years and I've now lived in Milwaukee for three and a half years... the only shooting I've ever been in the middle of was a mall in a very Republican Wisconsin suburb... I was in the back of a store when the shooting happened, but it happened right where I was three minutes earlier.

And when we're talking about mass shootings, how many times has it been a "libtard" pulling the trigger?

BTW, I don't want laws to take your guns away. Most of my friends and I who do lean left are pretty pragmatic... could it be that that perceptions of both sides are distorted?
IMO, people are too quick when they hear a single opinion to put someone in the respective box. You're either in box left or box right to most people/organizations. What we see/hear from outlets always position the other side as crazy because that gets the most views/makes the most money. I stopped watching that shit a long time ago.
 

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I carry in my waist. I don't have an in vehicle set up but there were some good ideas until the post got political/ranty. I won't go down that rabbit hole but I am interested a good way to store a gun in I needed to. I was thinking about getting a vehicle safe.
 
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