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I am on my 4th set of springs and 3rd set of shock to get the 2 door to ride right. Currently it has Teraflex 2.5in front coils for the 2 door and the rear has 3in synergy spring with .5in teraflex spacers. Shocks, I am running the Fox DSC from accutune and they are great. I have had bad experiences with spacer lifts on the JK platform so if other people have first hand experience with the JL and a specific brand I will leave it to them.

With all of that being said there are two paths I would consider, depending on how much you want to spend and what you plan on doing to it in the future.

I would get a Synergy 2in starter lift for the 2 door and accutune fox 2.0 smooth body reservoir shocks. That's corner specific springs, bump stop extensions, sway bar drop brackets and sway bar relocation brackets for less than $1000. Accutune will set the shocks up specifically for your jeep and will re-tune them if you don't like the way it rides for less than $1500.

The other lift that I really like for a daily driver is the Mopar lift for $2000, rides very similar to a stock jeep.
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I wouldn't automatically add bump stops for no reason, just because it's included in a kit... I would take more bump travel. Some 35s won't rub when stock, and if they did only +1" is all that would ever be needed (assuming proper offset on a Rubicon). Or match the bump stop height to shock's compressed length as I did with the 392 shocks.

To me Synergy's front sway bar link relocation brackets are cheap (actually $85!?)... but aren't a good solution. They add potential failure points, have slightly worse geometry, and probably won't work for longer shocks. Especially when it's so easy to get a longer OEM endlink as a used takeoff for way less than $85, or even two new rear Mopar Lift endlinks and relocate the old rear ones to the front. Sidenote: I recently bought a full set of stainless XR endlinks on eBay for $45 shipped... MSRP is an unreal $1,079.

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And finally, I would prioritize shocks above everything else in the budget... and spend it here. Ride height can be tweaked for cheap with spacers/shims (to a point... I say 1.5" max but many run 2"). Running spacers doesn't make a "spacer lift" either... spacer lifts have brackets so that the OEM shocks & endlinks can be used, in addition to spacing the springs for ride height gain. I don't see anything wrong with the factory rates as long as you don't need multi-rate for longer extension. In my opinion a good bump stop is better than a progressive/multi-rate spring, as it only adds rate right where you always need it: at full bump. A progressive spring might not be designed correctly for your load and end up too stiff or too soft, which would allow your suspension to crash into the harder/less progressive factory bump stops. This could all be mitigated with good adjustable shock tuning anyway (unless the spring stiffness restricts flex), which is why I say to prioritize the shock budget.
 

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Went with 3/4" front 1 1/2" rear spacer lift, For 2.0 smooth shock, and 34" BFG TA's and very happy with the same type of use you describe. The Jeep sets level and no rubbing and easy to still get in and out of the jeep. I added Hardrock steel rear bumper and Aluminum front bumper with winch.
The shocks did a much better job on and off road with the extra weight.
 
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Thanks for all the input guys.
Never realized there was so much to it.

Question for everyone.....
How would I do the following and is it do able?

- keep the stock suspension for now now (upgrade later to a spacer lift/spring lift)
- get longer shocks now (to fit future lift)

Think I want to spend the money on the shocks now but don't want to purchase twice....

Suggestions?
 

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Thanks for all the input guys.
Never realized there was so much to it.

Question for everyone.....
How would I do the following and is it do able?

- keep the stock suspension for now now (upgrade later to a spacer lift/spring lift)
- get longer shocks now (to fit future lift)

Think I want to spend the money on the shocks now but don't want to purchase twice....

Suggestions?
You can definitely change the shocks now without changing the ride height. Scroll through a few posts by @Trill in this thread. This will work on a Rubicon since the bump stops are the same, it will just have more bump travel. https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/the-2dr-sport-only-thread.15647/page-20#post-1040143

Products used are Fox's (Foxes?) 0-1.5" IFP shocks: https://accutuneoffroad.com/product/18-jeep-wrangler-jl-front-2-0-fox-shocks-ps-ifp-0-1-5-lift/ & https://accutuneoffroad.com/product/18-jeep-wrangler-jl-rear-2-0-fox-shocks-ps-ifp-0-1-5-lift/

Alternatively, the Fox 2-3" lift shocks seem to be perfectly sized for a +1" bump stop. This ends up with 1" less bump travel, which is livable but not ideal. The upside would be that no 35 would ever rub with OEM wheels (or something with similar offset).
 

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You can definitely change the shocks now without changing the ride height. Scroll through a few posts by @Trill in this thread. This will work on a Rubicon since the bump stops are the same, it will just have more bump travel. https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/the-2dr-sport-only-thread.15647/page-20#post-1040143

Products used are Fox's (Foxes?) 0-1.5" IFP shocks: https://accutuneoffroad.com/product/18-jeep-wrangler-jl-front-2-0-fox-shocks-ps-ifp-0-1-5-lift/ & https://accutuneoffroad.com/product/18-jeep-wrangler-jl-rear-2-0-fox-shocks-ps-ifp-0-1-5-lift/

Alternatively, the Fox 2-3" lift shocks seem to be perfectly sized for a +1" bump stop. This ends up with 1" less bump travel, which is livable but not ideal. The upside would be that no 35 would ever rub with OEM wheels (or something with similar offset).

This thread is so similar to the conundrum that I'm dealing with.

I've decided for now just to use the fox shocks for the longer travel and put off installing a lift until probably next year. As far as lifts go I'm seriously contemplating a dynatrac endurosport kit along with jks longer lower control arms front and rear and track bars.

To deal with tire rub I've decided to ditch the factory fender flares and fender liners for aftermarket. Using kbd flares and Rusty's front inner fenders and Artec rear inner fenders. Those inner fenders because I think vented inner fenders look cheesy and dumb and I wish more manufacturers had the option of unvented.

This to me seems like a good compromise until I can figure out what I really want to do with the suspension while giving me increased articulation and more ground clearance in the meantime.


The reasoning for the Dynatrac endurosport is it comes with its own unique tuned Fox shocks as well. It seems to be a very well regarded kit all around and a very good compromise.
 
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I went with D… 1.5in Clayton lift and Fox 2.0s on my 2022 JLR. Yes, it is a bit stiffer than stock but I like it (Wife does not) but she is rarely onboard. I get off road every month or so and will do more upon retirement. I have the Rubicon trail scheduled this summer and this set up gives me a lot of confidence.
 

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Did you look into JKS. They have complete kits at great prices if you purchase at a Jeep event. I love mine.
 

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Clayton 1.5 plus Fox 2.0 IFP for the win ...

What problem are you solving by just going with shocks first?
Partially cash flow and wanted to see how I got along with just that set up.
If I got into it more or thought I needed it I would then add the lift...
 
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This thread is so similar to the conundrum that I'm dealing with.

I've decided for now just to use the fox shocks for the longer travel and put off installing a lift until probably next year. As far as lifts go I'm seriously contemplating a dynatrac endurosport kit along with jks longer lower control arms front and rear and track bars.

To deal with tire rub I've decided to ditch the factory fender flares and fender liners for aftermarket. Using kbd flares and Rusty's front inner fenders and Artec rear inner fenders. Those inner fenders because I think vented inner fenders look cheesy and dumb and I wish more manufacturers had the option of unvented.

This to me seems like a good compromise until I can figure out what I really want to do with the suspension while giving me increased articulation and more ground clearance in the meantime.


The reasoning for the Dynatrac endurosport is it comes with its own unique tuned Fox shocks as well. It seems to be a very well regarded kit all around and a very good compromise.
Which Fox shocks have you decided to go with?
 

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Money. A lift isn't needed to fit 35s on a Rubicon, and you can get decent flex out of stock components.
I’m not completely sure about having full clearance though. I went with 0 offset wheels to eliminate the possibility based on advice here on the forum and Northridge4x4 who did the lift.
 

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I had the Mopar Lift installed on my 23 Wrangler Rubi 2 Dr. The Lift Kit included the Fox Shocks. The outside diameter of the shocks is 2 5/8" and the ride on both off and on road is very good. The shocks are very compliant for both dirt and asphalt. I believe the Kit was right around $2,000. I'm running 35" Bajas Load Range E with Method 106 Beadlocks. I would 't change a thing on my build.

Also, I added the Fox ATS and I am very happy with that Mod/Addition.
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