Rubicon or willys ????

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I can only buy one . Looks like with same options about 6,000.00 difference . Not going to be doing much rock crawling .​
Is a Willys a better fit for normal every day driving ? With higher gear ratios I would think the Willys would be able to get better gas mileage . Will be daily driver for the wife .​
I'm leaning towards the Willys .​
Asking for input to help me make a decision between the two models .​
Thanks in advance .​
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I was just struggling with this and would have gone Willys, but ended up in a JLUR because price difference was like $2950. For me, it's good to have the Rubicon gadgets in case I need them, than to need them and not have them.

If it was $6k, I'd go Willys; better gas milage, less crap to break, and LSD is better for onroad driving and great for off road, and probably lower on your insurance.
 

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If I knew I wasn't going to be rock crawling, I'd go Willys. It's a sweet package.
 

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I can only buy one . Looks like with same options about 6,000.00 difference . Not going to be doing much rock crawling .​
Is a Willys a better fit for normal every day driving ? With higher gear ratios I would think the Willys would be able to get better gas mileage . Will be daily driver for the wife .​
I'm leaning towards the Willys .​
Asking for input to help me make a decision between the two models .​
Thanks in advance .​
Hi, just my 2 cents. I bought a 21' JLUR and while it looks great it's a terrible daily driver. I suspect that the Willy's would be as well with the MT tires it comes with and the lack of standard creature comforts. If I were to do it again I'd buy a Sahara.. I've had the unfortunate experience of being without my Jeep due to an accident recently and the rental car company gave me a. Saraha. It drives much smoother with much better pickup due to the street tires and less weight over the nose (I regrettably bought a Deisel). Driving on huge MT tires with the Rubicon suspension in suburban or highway traffic is rough. And they stop/brake much worse with those setups as well. Do I sound bitter? :)
 

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I have a Willys and is great as a daily driver/camping/and moderate trails right off the lot. I even did Broken Arrow in Sedona (look up videos) with no mods and it handled like a champ. My wife loves it! Likes is more than our Corvette. Get the Bestop sunrider top for instant convertible and she'll never stop smiling. If you are not doing any difficult trails and for sure don't want to mod, I say the Willys is a better value. The misses thinks it looks better than the Rubicon... of course that is subjective.

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I did broken arrow in a rental sahara with 46psi in the tires. Why does the factory overinflate the tires when they put the sticker in the door sill that says 37psi? Rhetorical question.

If I was going to do it over, I would have probably gotten a willys XR, I didnt really enjoy the rubicon trail that much anyway. Too many rocks
 

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This question has been asked many times in the Forums. Most of the time, when members that didn't buy the Rubicon, later say that they wished that they had. So just go get the Rubicon. Our Family has two Rubicon's, of which we are very happy with them..:)
 

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I did broken arrow in a rental sahara with 46psi in the tires. Why does the factory overinflate the tires whtso they don't flat spot en they put the sticker in the door sill that says 37psi? Rhetorical question.

If I was going to do it over, I would have probably gotten a willys XR, I didnt really enjoy the rubicon trail that much anyway. Too many rocks
From what I was told so the tires won't flat spot while sitting on the Dealer lot
 

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I can only buy one . Looks like with same options about 6,000.00 difference . Not going to be doing much rock crawling .​
Is a Willys a better fit for normal every day driving ? With higher gear ratios I would think the Willys would be able to get better gas mileage . Will be daily driver for the wife .​
I'm leaning towards the Willys .​
Asking for input to help me make a decision between the two models .​
Thanks in advance .​
If your wife is going to be driving in snow, she is going to find Willys’s rear LSD a LOT more useful than Rubicon’s lockers.

Even more, I’d order the Willys with shift-it-and-forget-in Selec-Trac full-time 4WD.

Unlike lockers, LSD works 24/7 and engages automatically, instantly and seamlessly at any speed; it works in 2WD, in 4H, in 4L and in 4Auto.
 

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Get the Willys and put some mild AT tires on it. The tires it comes with are noisy. You may even be able to make a deal with the dealer to have it done as part of the deal. The tires on the Willys will be their most valuable the day you buy it.
 
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If your wife is going to be driving in snow, she is going to find Willys’s rear LSD a LOT more useful than Rubicon’s lockers.

Even more, I’d order the Willys with shift-it-and-forget-in Selec-Trac full-time 4WD.

Unlike the lockers, LSD engages automatically, and works in 2WD, 4H, 4L and in 4Auto.
I didn't know that the rubicon doesn't have a LSD in the rear end . That is a deal breaker for winter driving , I live in south dakota ....
Now wondering if I should be comparing a sahara to a Willys.
 

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No serious rock crawling you’ll be totally fine with a Willy’s with 35” tires or less. You’ll still be able to handle fairly moderate trails. You could easily run the entire rubicon in a sport on 35” tires with maybe one or two pulls from a tow strap. Who knows, maybe not even one depending on the time of year. (After the jamborees a lot of rocks have been stacked).

The lsd and brake lock differential work great, especially paired with an automatic which makes it that much easier to crawl. The cool blacked out grille and rock rails are great as well.

Don’t get a Sahara
 
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