Really great Bronco features you'd like in the Wrangler

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Uh...it's not like this thing hasn't been in umpteen videos plastered all over the internet on both the Rubicon and in Moab. We can make a pretty accurate assessment based on what Ford has shown.

The IFS is nothing special and while IFS can be amazing offroad, the Brono's is not....and that's largely due to a production vehicle that has to meet NTHSA crash standards and many other considerations; the pinnacle of which is NOT offroad prowess.

What is special is the low gearing and the real lockers front and rear. For IFS, it's not a first, but it's a rarity in the commercial space.
35" tires on beadlock capable wheels from the factory is unique...dont know another production vehicle having that option.





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35" tires on beadlock capable wheels from the factory is unique...dont know another production vehicle having that option.
True, but there's a larger second hand market for factory 33's. I had a slower go at selling my factory wheels because of the 35" ko2's that they were wrapped with.

My wife is interested in the Badlands model, which has everything from the Bigfoot package, except the 35's. She likes the bigger tires, but not the weight penalty of beadlocks she doesn't need or mud terrains she doesn't want.

So, in my opinion, its convenient for those who would go that route even if given the option. But not so much for those wanting bigger rubber and/or some tire poke. Doubtful that the factory would offer the tire poking ability that isn't allowed everywhere.
 

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True, but there's a larger second hand market for factory 33's. I had a slower go at selling my factory wheels because of the 35" ko2's that they were wrapped with.

My wife is interested in the Badlands model, which has everything from the Bigfoot package, except the 35's. She likes the bigger tires, but not the weight penalty of beadlocks she doesn't need or mud terrains she doesn't want.

So, in my opinion, its convenient for those who would go that route even if given the option. But not so much for those wanting bigger rubber and/or some tire poke. Doubtful that the factory would offer the tire poking ability that isn't allowed everywhere.
The Sasquatch package has different flares, wheels, tires, and a slightly higher lift than the BL trim level itself.
I also want to say the wheels are bead lock "capable", but do not come with lock rings. That's another $900 I believe. I might be wrong on the price, so don't hold me to that.
 

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What a crying shame, to see a great and knowledgeable guy like Sean K on the banned list!

Hope to hear from you again, buddy!
Totally agree. I read his posts. Don't see where he stepped over the line.
 

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True, but there's a larger second hand market for factory 33's. I had a slower go at selling my factory wheels because of the 35" ko2's that they were wrapped with.

My wife is interested in the Badlands model, which has everything from the Bigfoot package, except the 35's. She likes the bigger tires, but not the weight penalty of beadlocks she doesn't need or mud terrains she doesn't want.

So, in my opinion, its convenient for those who would go that route even if given the option. But not so much for those wanting bigger rubber and/or some tire poke. Doubtful that the factory would offer the tire poking ability that isn't allowed everywhere.
Cool...I wasnt talking about selling tires or tire poke...was simply replying to Sean saying 35" tires on beadlock capable wheels from the factory is unique.
 

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I hope it pans out well. My wife wants a loaded 2 door Badlands, so my fingers are crossed for a drama free experience.
I am hesitant. Ford made a big mistake doing all that marketing so early. I know they didn't account for more of the recent delays, but having literally a year for all this stuff to marinate has let the hype come waaaaaaaay down for people like me.

I'm just really worried a Base bronco is gonna be way under the capability of a sport.
 

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I am hesitant. Ford made a big mistake doing all that marketing so early. I know they didn't account for more of the recent delays, but having literally a year for all this stuff to marinate has let the hype come waaaaaaaay down for people like me.

I'm just really worried a Base bronco is gonna be way under the capability of a sport.
Agreed, they should've gotten their affairs better put together so they could strike the iron while it was hot.

As far as capability, it really just comes down to your intended use. The Wrangler Sport is a dual market segment vehicle, for those on a strict budget or those wanting a clean slate for skies the limit building. Theres already an established plethora of aftermarket options, which are generally of higher quality at a lower price than Mopars offerings.

A base bronco can be built up, but one is limited to Fords parts that will undoubtedly be as champagne priced as Mopar. Also, I predict a long lag time for the big aftermarket names to support it. And when it does, it'll most likely be spearheaded by things along the lines of angry eye grills and rgb lighting. If things like lift kits ever emerge, they'll be incredibly priced to be done right, or they'll be comparable to spacer lifts. All show and no go.

To wrap up this babble, the base Bronco with sasquatch lift and 35's has the benefit of the 44 axles and the JL Sport with a comparable lift and 35's the ability to articulate at a higher degree. Again, the big question is what type of terrain are you wanting to traverse.
 

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Cool...I wasnt talking about selling tires or tire poke...was simply replying to Sean saying 35" tires on beadlock capable wheels from the factory is unique.
Yeah, forgive me, was just trying to add the flip side of the coin like Sean would. Lol
 

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The few things Ford did with the Bronco that Jeep could learn from...
1. The option packages. The fact that the Sasquatch is a package and not a trim level opens up a word of possibilities. Imagine a Sport Wrangler with Rubicon package where you get lockers, a lift and 35’s. If the Ford world, you upgrade trim if you want more tech, not more off-road features... makes sense.
2. Marine grade vinyl seats. Makes sense for an off-road vehicle. My YJ had it years ago, was great. Should be an option today.
3. Technology. Jeep has been slow to adopt modern tech like rain sensitive wipers, auto lane centering, power memory seats etc... I get it... it’s a Wrangler, but some people like tech. Make it available.
 

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The few things Ford did with the Bronco that Jeep could learn from...
1. The option packages. The fact that the Sasquatch is a package and not a trim level opens up a word of possibilities. Imagine a Sport Wrangler with Rubicon package where you get lockers, a lift and 35’s. If the Ford world, you upgrade trim if you want more tech, not more off-road features... makes sense.
2. Marine grade vinyl seats. Makes sense for an off-road vehicle. My YJ had it years ago, was great. Should be an option today.
3. Technology. Jeep has been slow to adopt modern tech like rain sensitive wipers, auto lane centering, power memory seats etc... I get it... it’s a Wrangler, but some people like tech. Make it available.
It's 2021, make LED lighting and proximity locks standard. It's a simple money grab for FCA bc they haven't had any competition and could get away with charging for it. Really glad to see the bronco coming..
 

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It's 2021, make LED lighting and proximity locks standard. It's a simple money grab for FCA bc they haven't had any competition and could get away with charging for it. Really glad to see the bronco coming..
No thanks. Making certain things standard, rather than having them as an option would have a negative impact on sales.
 

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No thanks. Making certain things standard, rather than having them as an option would have a negative impact on sales.
One thing’s for sure, there’s no reason for the Wrangler to have a 5” radio standard. Touch screens are a dime a dozen these days.
 

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No thanks. Making certain things standard, rather than having them as an option would have a negative impact on sales.
Why would standardizing LED lights and proximity locks hurt sales? Most other vehicle MFG's have been including that as standard equipment for years.
 

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Why would standardizing LED lights and proximity locks hurt sales? Most other vehicle MFG's have been including that as standard equipment for years.
Led lights don't generate enough heat and allow snow and ice build up in extremely cold climates. Proximity locks add cost, higher cost hurts sales, especially when that added cost is being charged to a customer in Florida who will never have the doors on their rig. A stripped down base model is very attractive to certain buyers, especially in the most utilitarian vehicle on the market.
 

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