Really great Bronco features you'd like in the Wrangler

[Kurt0]

My last Ford was a 1956 2-door coupe, but I am planning to test drive a Bronco this year; things the Bronco has that I would like on the Wrangler---a normal non-folding windshield that has no howling wind leaks, a hardtop design that does not allow water to stream into the cabin when opening doors in the rain and power front seats.

based on what im hearing about the Bronco delay, youre better off investing in a nice Gore Tex rain jacket. They cant get that thing to stop leaking everywhere

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[Headbarcode]

@Sean K.
You gotta relax, man. I asked why you didn't respond because you posted again and didn't respond to me. It's as simple as that. You're getting a little out of hand with the personal insults; just tone it down.

Anyway, as for the content, you're misrepresenting me again. Once more, for clarity, I am of the opinion that I want to see the final, mass market production Bronco in the hands of reviewers with detailed and published specs before I judge anything. It's just as simple as that. I never said we can't make "any" judgements about the suspension. Never. I said that independent suspensions have come a long way, something that many of us has discussed to death and mostly agree on. That's it. Whatever else you're spinning out of that is on you. I think anyone who's gonna fully judge the thing right now is crazy.


A picture of a pre-production vehicle of unknown specs going over a bump is enough for you to judge the whole suspension situation? I mean, that's fine. And we know the independent suspension isn't gonna plant like a solid axle does, but I just wanna know more. I wanna see more from reviewers when they get their hands on it. I wanna hear from people who test drive it and especially from people who buy it and run it offroad alongside some JLs. I'm not willing to say "I've seen enough" at this point.

And I'm in the "no Bronco" club at the moment. I keep swinging back and forth, but I love my JL too much to let it go anytime soon. I'm out of warranty in a couple months already and I can't believe how fast 3 years went by. Usually I'm itching to get out of a vehicle after this long, but I already have so many cool memories with this jeep doing mods and taking it offroad - and I like the looks way more than the bronco, I've decided.

I hope it pans out well. My wife wants a loaded 2 door Badlands, so my fingers are crossed for a drama free experience.

There's a lot of videos that show the performance of the suspension system, so it's not a matter of judging on a simple picture. The only thing that it offers over every other standard short arm ifs vehicle, is lockers and sway disconnect. A long arm ifs, like the baja trucks showcased in the unveil movie, would be a different story, but it would price the vehicle out of its target audience. Those who prioritize daily drive ability over off road ability.

Targeting the lighter use, image seaking crowd is a smart move on Fords part. 4h auto, push button transfer case, and a roof made out of several easy to manage pieces are proof of that pudding. Less drivers engagement is valued by that consumer segment.

Ooo, I want to do that to my Jeep.

Seriously though, Ford should've consulted those guys about articulation. Hahaha!

 

[Sean K.]

Agree, none of the test rigs were on 37s.
I only pointed out the Cyber Orange Bronco that was on 37's because it was not even a functioning unit, but was still posed by Ford during some of their press releases.

Right. I knew you knew that. I was just clarifying for anyone reading along who may not have.

 

[AnnDee4444]

Ooo, I want to do that to my Jeep.

Seriously though, Ford should've consulted those guys about articulation. Hahaha!

IFS doesn't necessarily mean the vehicle won't flex... it's just that the rear has to do more of the flexing:

 

[Sean K.]

I hope it pans out well. My wife wants a loaded 2 door Badlands, so my fingers are crossed for a drama free experience.

There's a lot of videos that show the performance of the suspension system, so it's not a matter of judging on a simple picture. The only thing that it offers over every other standard short arm ifs vehicle, is lockers and sway disconnect. A long arm ifs, like the baja trucks showcased in the unveil movie, would be a different story, but it would price the vehicle out of its target audience. Those who prioritize daily drive ability over off road ability.

Targeting the lighter use, image seaking crowd is a smart move on Fords part. 4h auto, push button transfer case, and a roof made out of several easy to manage pieces are proof of that pudding. Less drivers engagement is valued by that consumer segment.

Ooo, I want to do that to my Jeep.

Seriously though, Ford should've consulted those guys about articulation. Hahaha!

I've known several guys that did that here (done by Jason Paule at Twisted Customs up in SD actually)....Tracy Jordan and Don Robbins to name two. INSANE capability with hydraulic rams on each corner (and coilovers in the rear/leaves up front) and 4wheel steer. If RCAA hadn't outlawed its use, the sport would probably look VERY different in terms of the difficulty of the obstacles.

I saw Tracy literally drive his onto a 5' loading dock by just picking up one tire at a time and driving forward (slight angle) until all 4 were on top. Not to mention the insane angles they could hold by pushing the rams down on the low side and compressing the high side.

Definitely the most capable rigs I've ever seen. Driving them took a lot of error to get good....Tracy launched himself off several obstacles figuring it all out....but it made him one of the best drivers I've ever seen too.

 

[Headbarcode]

IFS doesn't necessarily mean the vehicle won't flex... it's just that the rear has to do more of the flexing:

Ok, I don't want to do that to my Jeep. Lol

 

[Headbarcode]

I've known several guys that did that here (done by Jason Paule at Twisted Customs up in SD actually)....Tracy Jordan and Don Robbins to name two. INSANE capability with hydraulic rams on each corner (and coilovers in the rear/leaves up front) and 4wheel steer. If RCAA hadn't outlawed its use, the sport would probably look VERY different in terms of the difficulty of the obstacles.

I saw Tracy literally drive his onto a 5' loading dock by just picking up one tire at a time and driving forward (slight angle) until all 4 were on top. Not to mention the insane angles they could hold by pushing the rams down on the low side and compressing the high side.

Definitely the most capable rigs I've ever seen. Driving them took a lot of error to get good....Tracy launched himself off several obstacles figuring it all out....but it made him one of the best drivers I've ever seen too.

What a crying shame, to see a great and knowledgeable guy like Sean K on the banned list!

Hope to hear from you again, buddy!

 

[AnnDee4444]

What a crying shame, to see a great and knowledgeable guy like Sean K on the banned list!

Hope to hear from you again, buddy!

 

[multicam]

What a crying shame, to see a great and knowledgeable guy like Sean K on the banned list!

Hope to hear from you again, buddy!

Yeah... what the hell?

 

[Headbarcode]

 

[Headbarcode]

Yeah... what the hell?

And over what? A freakin bronco thread?

 

[TimnTexas]

In our explorer, the home link garage door opener works with the engine and accessories off. In my 2020 Jeep, I open the door and try to activate the garage door and....nothing happens. Seems like a design miss on Jeeps part. Love my Jeep but this is my only grip. I bet the bronco will work like the explorer

 

[wolf]

My last Ford was a 1956 2-door coupe, but I am planning to test drive a Bronco this year; things the Bronco has that I would like on the Wrangler---a normal non-folding windshield that has no howling wind leaks, a hardtop design that does not allow water to stream into the cabin when opening doors in the rain and power front seats.

 

[cgagnon99]

In our explorer, the home link garage door opener works with the engine and accessories off. In my 2020 Jeep, I open the door and try to activate the garage door and....nothing happens. Seems like a design miss on Jeeps part. Love my Jeep but this is my only grip. I bet the bronco will work like the explorer

I wouldn't say it's a design flaw in the Jeep, but by design. Especially for those with a soft top, it would be easy for someone to get in, hit the button, and have access to your garage, not just what you have in the Jeep. I haven't had homelink in any car, but I can tell you I'd rather it work the way the Jeep does, not how your Explorer does

 

[wolf]

I agree , Add a one piece metal top, no removable anything. Maybe a sun roof. Remember the older land cruisers. However they road like a horse and buggy but would go anywhere.