If FCA has decided that it won’t be offering half doors, then it should STOP showing JLs with half doors!We need the HALF DOORS brought back! Love the frameless doors of the Bronco. I think most people agree, the Wrangler just looks plain goofy with full doors on and top off, just hideous to me.
I recently emailed FCA asking about the half doors and reminded them of their misleading advertising of the 2018 JL showing half doors.
They replied to me and said “unfortunately we will not be offering half doors for the JL”. This just makes me sick but what can you do?
I have had instances when neither FCA nor the dealer stood behind the warranty on my last JK. I am not too impressed with either.You went to the wrong place. I checked out my dealer and had a great experience buying mine and if I didnt I wouldnt blame the company, just the dealership. Now if JEEP didnt stand behind something wrong that is a different story. But they have been pretty good in the past, even extending warranty's.
I have had a bad experience with FORD. A truck burning a quart of oil every 600 miles is ok with FORD the company. LAME.
Yea this is where Ford seriously sacrificed off-road capability for on-road comfort. The IFS has its own LCA-clearance issues, but it also necessitated the ridiculous width of the Bronco to maintain some semblance of acceptable off-road wheel articulation. Now the damn thing won’t fit down a TON of trails. The two most important mods on a trail bronco are going to be xpel and a chainsaw mount unless it’s exclusively wheeled in wide open spaces.That's a real problem where I like to wheel. Narrow slot and shelf trails. JLs are becoming ever more bus like as it is. The Bronco Sport is wider still. No deal for me.
All the Broncos that will be made for quite a while will be reservation-based, and you will order it exactly how you want it. It will be at least a year or so after production starts before they show up on the lot as available units.If Wrangler could come out with some kind of robust rubber floor that also blocked heat and noise (I dunno....maybe embedded pockets of sound proofing) - that would be my number one request. I drive with a full interior these days and have the shop-vac usage to match, but my bedlined TJ's were bloody easy to clean.
The pricing thing will be interesting. Around the campfire when we BS about rigs, we've often discussed the dilemma with paper pricing and dealer/realistic pricing. It's sort of an easter egg hunt. When it was finally time to let the 2006 LJ Rubicon go - ugh that was a hard call - I looked all over for what I wanted: JLUR with no options.
After about a month, I WAS able to find two of them - one being the Jeep I took home. I paid 42000, for my 2020 JLUR, which is pretty damn close to as cheap as you can configure an unlimited rubicon. The only package that the dealer added was the touch-handle keyless entry and all weather mats, which I would have bought anyway - and even got it in Sting Gray. 42k is no small chunk of change for most folks, but I'm happy with what I paid, especially given that a "4wd" Honda CRV, modestly equipped, sits near 38k off the lot. IMO the Jeep is a lot more capability for dollar, however ya feel about FCA.
My Ford pals have lauded the configurability of the upcoming Bronco packages, mentioning how great it will be to see all the features at lower price points. I'm dubious how realistic finding one will be, especially in the first 2 years. Not saying they won't be out there, but Dealers are Dealers and even configuring one custom will likely involve mandatory box checking of certain price-adding features.
All the manufacturers will do this. GM did it with the '07-10 DoD (which they had to rename AFM 'cause the average consumer is too stupid to understand what Displacement is).Had Honda tell me nearly the same thing on the '08-12 Accords...burning 1 qt. of oil every 1K miles (with slated 5K oil changes and 4.5 qt. capacity....do the math you fucktards). Got rid of that thing before the 36K mile warranty was up.