Question for those WITHOUT the LED Package

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JLUR full led package. No heat if you hold your hand to the headlights.

JLUS stock headlights get very hot when you hold your hand to the headlights.

Switched out stock bulbs for LED's.
How do you like the bulb swap LEDs? How do they compare to the factory LEDs? If LED bulbs in halogen housings are "good enough", it seems like the wiser move, since you could swap halogens back in if you're driving in snow, rather than stopping every 15 minutes to dig snow off the lights.

I'll bet a flat piece of polycarbonate could be cut to cover the light recess and would solve most of the problems with LEDs in the snow. I suppose if there were a rubber "O" attached to the inside of this "snow lens", it could just be pressed/friction fit into the cavity and pulled out when not needed.
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Personally I do not see dumping 1K dollars on LEDs. Just buy a couple of pillar lights if you need to for driving trails at night.
You took the thoughts out of my fertile brain. I plan on doing exactly this. Then you also don't have to spend extra money buying the stupid re-programming tool just to dink around with lights.
 

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How do you like the bulb swap LEDs? How do they compare to the factory LEDs? If LED bulbs in halogen housings are "good enough", it seems like the wiser move, since you could swap halogens back in if you're driving in snow, rather than stopping every 15 minutes to dig snow off the lights.

My response:
My JLUR is fully loaded with factory LED's and tail lights which I think with proper adjustment after purchase of any Jeep, OEM looks and performs the best other than not enough heat to melt snow.

My JLUS has the stock halogen housings and the JL OEM bulb is way better than my previous JK's bulb as far as light output and both produce heat.

When you park both side by side at night the OEM LEDS are bright with a good cut off line and really looks clean.
The JLUS with stock OEM bulbs looks yellow and not very bright.
My intentions were to buy new OEM LEDS headlight assembly's between 700 and 900 and call it a day plus the cost of dealer enabling lights.(or TAZER)

So looking at the halogen headlight assembly removed, I noticed the JL has added a cutoff shield for the stock bulb to help not blind other cars.

Also the stock headlight reflector had etching that resembled my OEM LED reflector so I believe that replacing the stock bulbs with LED bulbs would have the exact light projection as stock bulbs only brighter.

Removed the bulb and noticed the design to get HI and LO beams and used that information to research LED bulb replacement that matched the OEM design.

The LED bulbs matched OEM with staggering 2 LEDS _- -----> with top LED chip the low and the bottom LED chip the High beam.
Only install the new LED bulb exactly like this

Now after parking both side by side and made the proper headlight adjustment, OEM LEDS and LED bulb replacement (fogs and turn signals to)look almost as good as factory as far as light output an function.

The best LED replacement bulbs should have the fan/heatsink attached to the bulb, not the ones where you have the LED and another cord attached to a power transformer that you hide in the headlight assembly.

Great idea to swap OEM bulbs with LEDS and back when needed for snow/ice.

As an experiment I removed the LED bulb, lined the backside where you plug in the bulb and twist, with lots of aluminum foil to fill in all the dead space.

Reinstall the LED bulb with built in fan/heatsink and there is a black cover to remove the bulb and I drilled a tiny hole in this cover and replaced.

My thinking is that the built in fan/heatsink with the hole in the cover and all that dead space filled with aluminum foil would generate a little more heat from LEDS.


After 20 minutes and 43F outside I could feel more heat coming from the LED bulbs than before.

It may be just enough to do the job in snow/ice conditions.
 

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Personally I do not see dumping 1K dollars on LEDs. Just buy a couple of pillar lights if you need to for driving trails at night.
LED's are worth it, love mine. Looks better and functions better. Live in the Midwest and have not had any snow/ice buildup on them.
 

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You took the thoughts out of my fertile brain. I plan on doing exactly this. Then you also don't have to spend extra money buying the stupid re-programming tool just to dink around with lights.
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LED's are worth it, love mine. Looks better and functions better. Live in the Midwest and have not had any snow/ice buildup on them.
It is good you are happy with yours however I do not see worth in them. Pillar lights for much less will do same and better when needed.
 

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It is good you are happy with yours however I do not see worth in them. Pillar lights for much less will do same and better when needed.
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There are more than enough threads regarding the LED’s not being warm enough to melt snow resulting in snow/ice buildup. It doesn’t seem like anyone without the LED package views or replies to these threads.
I recently confirmed that the incandescent headlights on my wife’s CRV and my mother’s Outlander produce absolutely no heat to the lenses after driving over 30 minutes.

So, can anyone without the LED package confirm whether their headlights produce heat? If they do not, I think we can officially stop blaming the LED’s and assign it to the headlight’s concave design.
The headlights are Convex not Concave.. But, I'm just being pedantic. I live in Hoiston, and don't have a snow problem. Now, to those that want more light, and LED's to get more light: Just swap out factory bulbs for Philips Extreme Vision. 100% more light. I can attest to them being much much brighter than stock, and I have had them over 1 year, with zero complaint. Plus, they only cost $31. Also, no need to worry about electrical issues, associated with converting Halogen to LED. Very easy to swap out.

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I can only say I am doing great without LED lights. I do not like LED lights and so as a result it seems to me I have one less problem to puzzle over.
 

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i did not get the led lights from the factory because paying $1000 is not worth it for me. i knew that the halogen bulbs are not that great. so i ordered me a set of supernova v4 headlight and fog lights from headlight revolution. $348 for the both is the best investment. they are plug and play. no issues. i also got a pair of the 2" cube lights on the pillar for $100. so its a better deal.

as for the heat in the halogen bulbs. mine wasnt that warm to melt any snow off the lens.
 
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