I have heard of DV8... but never spoken to an owner of one. They were suggested by a mod shop guy whose opinion I trust. If you go the DV8 route I wld love to know your thoughts!Iron Cross has one out now I'll have to post a picture of it later I'm on my phone it's on my computer and DV8 off-road is coming out with some really nice bumpers for around $400 and Havoc will be coming out also with some bumpers in the the $ 300 to $400 range. They are very well-made. I have a havoc rear now its very well made. My front is an xrc Smittybilt it was around 4:50 and it's very well me too they're coming out with a bunch by the end of the month.