richk225
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- Rich
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- 2021 392Rubicon XR 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee
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- retired due to broken back
Well there is a lot of controversy about th Jeep JL steering. Sorry for repeating myself, I’m 55 and have been a Jeep owner since I had my farm permit to drive. I’ve had lots of other rides throughout the years but always a Jeep in my collection of misfits. Stock, big block, blown small block, mud bigger (New Egypt) every version of Wrangler made from 1975 and even a few XJ`S, Scramblers, and Grand Cherokee’s currently wife’s ride. My small block CJ-7 with 40” Super swampers could hold a straight line, but you had to drive it not just get in and go.
My last was a JK, AEV 3.5 Lift, 35 BFG`S, 3:73 gears and a Ripp Supercharger, all work done by myself. Drove straight as a arrow no matter what tire pressure.After wrenching on these for so long you get to know their inherited issues, and thankfully because of the net you can pretty much get a instantaneous answer to them
No vehicle is perfect, I had BMW buy back my M3. But at a certain point the manufacturers have to close their mouths and open their ears. Sorry it’s not a JEEP thing to have white knuckle steering issues, yes it’s a Jeep and not a car but am I supposed to accept that as a answer for the steering issues?
So if I buy a JL Sport for $30k should it drive any different then my over $50k Rubicon ? Slightly with subtle differences due to configuration, tires, etc. but not to the point it’s scary. Safety is Safety no matter how much you spend.
My Rubicon is all over the road to the point of taking off the new 35” General X3`s and replacing them with BFG KM3`S, the ride was better but still wandering all over the road.
Due to some serious health issues my schedule revolves around doctors, surgeries and various other treatments, that being said my Rubicon has only 1400 highway miles on it so no steering damage done from hammering it off road. The one thing I do have is time, so I read up on all the possible reasons from most of the forums, and I have decided to investigate on my own, granted I can’t flash the computer but I figured I would check to make sure ALL of the steering components were torqued to spec. I started and ended in the same spot, the drivers side lower ball joint. I was in the process of removing the cotterpin from the castle nut when I noticed that the castle nut was moving freely as I removed the cotterpin. Not only was the nut finger tight but the castle nut was not even making contact, I was able to slide a .010 feeler gauge between them.
So will adjustment in tire pressure correct my steering issues? Will the TSB 08-092-18 correct the issue? Maybe adjusting the steering box will do it? Maybe a new steering box?
Maybe Jeep should address this a a real safety issue instead of leaving it up to the owners to try to correct the issue, sometimes being left up to the owner due to dealer lack of knowledge or just being plain frustrated from getting the run around. It’s a shame that many Jeep owners will travel out of their community just to get to a dealer who knows what they are doing. (Myself) I hope that it does not take one bad apple (accident) to spoil the whole bunch.
Yes I did check the other 3 ball joints without removing the cotterpins, total of 3 that are loose and yes the do have the blue paint dab on them. Dana`s issue since they deliver the axle assemblies completely assembled ? Or a Jeep issue or lack of QC?
I went no further with the inspection of my Jeep, it’s not my job, it’s Jeeps job to get it right.
I spoke with Jeep cares and created a incident report, they will be calling the dealer the day before I drop it off and also the dealer is supposed to contact them when they find / correct the issue. Sorry for the long rant but there is just to much bs floating around and Jeep needs to take ownership of the problems and be responsible
http://thechive.com/2018/09/11/pilot-youre-clear-for-anxiety-attack-video/ similar issues keeping her straight,just for laughs!
My last was a JK, AEV 3.5 Lift, 35 BFG`S, 3:73 gears and a Ripp Supercharger, all work done by myself. Drove straight as a arrow no matter what tire pressure.After wrenching on these for so long you get to know their inherited issues, and thankfully because of the net you can pretty much get a instantaneous answer to them
No vehicle is perfect, I had BMW buy back my M3. But at a certain point the manufacturers have to close their mouths and open their ears. Sorry it’s not a JEEP thing to have white knuckle steering issues, yes it’s a Jeep and not a car but am I supposed to accept that as a answer for the steering issues?
So if I buy a JL Sport for $30k should it drive any different then my over $50k Rubicon ? Slightly with subtle differences due to configuration, tires, etc. but not to the point it’s scary. Safety is Safety no matter how much you spend.
My Rubicon is all over the road to the point of taking off the new 35” General X3`s and replacing them with BFG KM3`S, the ride was better but still wandering all over the road.
Due to some serious health issues my schedule revolves around doctors, surgeries and various other treatments, that being said my Rubicon has only 1400 highway miles on it so no steering damage done from hammering it off road. The one thing I do have is time, so I read up on all the possible reasons from most of the forums, and I have decided to investigate on my own, granted I can’t flash the computer but I figured I would check to make sure ALL of the steering components were torqued to spec. I started and ended in the same spot, the drivers side lower ball joint. I was in the process of removing the cotterpin from the castle nut when I noticed that the castle nut was moving freely as I removed the cotterpin. Not only was the nut finger tight but the castle nut was not even making contact, I was able to slide a .010 feeler gauge between them.
So will adjustment in tire pressure correct my steering issues? Will the TSB 08-092-18 correct the issue? Maybe adjusting the steering box will do it? Maybe a new steering box?
Maybe Jeep should address this a a real safety issue instead of leaving it up to the owners to try to correct the issue, sometimes being left up to the owner due to dealer lack of knowledge or just being plain frustrated from getting the run around. It’s a shame that many Jeep owners will travel out of their community just to get to a dealer who knows what they are doing. (Myself) I hope that it does not take one bad apple (accident) to spoil the whole bunch.
Yes I did check the other 3 ball joints without removing the cotterpins, total of 3 that are loose and yes the do have the blue paint dab on them. Dana`s issue since they deliver the axle assemblies completely assembled ? Or a Jeep issue or lack of QC?
I went no further with the inspection of my Jeep, it’s not my job, it’s Jeeps job to get it right.
I spoke with Jeep cares and created a incident report, they will be calling the dealer the day before I drop it off and also the dealer is supposed to contact them when they find / correct the issue. Sorry for the long rant but there is just to much bs floating around and Jeep needs to take ownership of the problems and be responsible
http://thechive.com/2018/09/11/pilot-youre-clear-for-anxiety-attack-video/ similar issues keeping her straight,just for laughs!
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