Payload 850?

[hozuki]

Hello all , I just got a JLU sport S a couple of weeks ago and I noticed on the sticker by the drivers door about tire and payload that it say cargo and occupants not to exceed 850 LB that seems very low. Anyone else have the same.

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[JIMBOX]

Must be, my 2dr RUBY says 700lbs !

Man they ain't a 1/2 ton truck--

W.E.

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[HighDeaf1080p]

Haha. Better not ever take 4 adults plus camping gear!

 

[Swanny297]

Hello all , I just got a JLU sport S a couple of weeks ago and I noticed on the sticker by the drivers door about tire and payload that it say cargo and occupants not to exceed 850 LB that seems very low. Anyone else have the same.

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...r-weight-tow-capacity-max-payload-specs.1440/

 

[mazeppa]

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...r-weight-tow-capacity-max-payload-specs.1440/

Wow, the JT just 1100 to 1400 lbs. max payload for a pickup.

 

[blessidsoul12]

Hmmm...

 

[WXman]

Payload and towing are kept artificially low on purpose due to the fact that it's a convertible (liability) and the way the hitch bolts to only a crossmember (torsional stress).

I exceed payload on mine with just my family and gear in the Jeep. I'm not worried about it. But, for legal reasons you do need to be cautious and aware of what you're doing.

 

[The_Phew]

Wow, the JT just 1100 to 1400 lbs. max payload for a pickup.

Midsize pickups have never been any good for payload. Most minivans have higher payload than midsize pickups, and even some configurations of half-ton pickups.

Minivans are vastly underrated for hauling duty. With the second row removed/stowed, you can stack 4x8 sheets to the ceiling (I've done it). Try that in ANY pickup with a <8ft bed.

 

[WXman]

When it comes to light trucks, of which the JL is considered, unless you're hauling commercially the weight stickers mean nothing. Even if you're hauling commercially, they mean next to nothing, as evidenced by the attached chart for your state. According to this chart, your could legally load your JL to 40,000 pounds. https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/freight/policy/rpt_congress/truck_sw_laws/app_a.htm#il All states are similar, btw, because they all accept federal highway dollars and comply with federal guidelines.

In 3...2...1...someone will chirp in with a comment about exceeding your stickered weight limit will void your insurance. Not true. Insurance is to protect other drivers from you, hence, what good would it be if it was invalidated for cause. If you tossed the keys to your 12 year old drunk nephew, loaded it to 50,000 pounds, told him to speed through a school zone, run over a bevy of nuns, escorting a dozen handicapped children, your insurance would pay. Likewise, if you get hit by a drunk driver their insurance (if they have any) pays - regardless of their actions. That's why we have financial responsibility (insurance) laws - to protect us from the irresponsible.

In 3...2...1...someone will chirp in with, "yeah, well, it's still immoral to overload your vehicle". Perhaps. We're big boys and girls; you make your decisions and I'll make mine. We have the criminal code in place for immoral actions, if it rises to that level we'll exercise that remedy.

My rant is over now, I hope you enjoyed it.

So, that portion of an auto insurance policy that's 4 pages long and lists "exclusions" that the policy will not cover... where does that come into play?

 

[PaulwithJeep]

Hello all , I just got a JLU sport S a couple of weeks ago and I noticed on the sticker by the drivers door about tire and payload that it say cargo and occupants not to exceed 850 LB that seems very low. Anyone else have the same.

The sticker on the door is put their by the tire manufacture. The tires from the factory may be rated for that weight but all wranglers have somewhere between 1,000 and 1361 of payload. I deal with this at our dealership all the time. If you want to put more then the 850 you may need different tires but the Jeep itself is built to handle it.

 

[Wabujitsu]

Remember, the old military Jeeps, such as the M151A, were called, in military vernacular, “quarter tons.” I guarantee you, between ass and gear, I have hauled WAY more than 500 pounds in them, while also pulling a loaded trailer!

 

[PaulwithJeep]

Remember, the old military Jeeps, such as the M151A, were called, in military vernacular, “quarter tons.” I guarantee you, between ass and gear, I have hauled WAY more than 500 pounds in them, while also pulling a loaded trailer!

All vehicle manufactures are going to set the limits bellow what it can actually do to cover their buts. My RAM 1500 is rated at 11,360lbs but you can definitely pull well above that. The risk is that if you get into an accident your insurance can look at it and say you were not operating safely due to being "over weight" and not pay you a dime. Worse still even if you are not to blame the police can turn this around on you quick and make it it your fault.

 

[Wabujitsu]

All vehicle manufactures are going to set the limits bellow what it can actually do to cover their buts. My RAM 1500 is rated at 11,360lbs but you can definitely pull well above that. The risk is that if you get into an accident your insurance can look at it and say you were not operating safely due to being "over weight" and not pay you a dime. Worse still even if you are not to blame the police can turn this around on you quick and make it it your fault.

Great points Paul. Not sure if the average police officer would have such a calibrated eye, and knowledge of Jeeps, to know when one is somewhat overloaded, and in all of the accidents I’ve been in over the years, almost all in trucks, I’ve never had an insurance company question my payload. With that said, it is something to consider. Also, I don’t condone anyone compromising safety by grossly overloading their vehicle. I do posit that you can exceed the placard weight and still be within the engineered safety envelope. Besides, who weighs what they put in a truck or Jeep? You have to use common sense.

 

[PaulwithJeep]

Great points Paul. Not sure if the average police officer would have such a calibrated eye, and knowledge of Jeeps, to know when one is somewhat overloaded, and in all of the accidents I’ve been in over the years, almost all in trucks, I’ve never had an insurance company question my payload. With that said, it is something to consider. Also, I don’t condone anyone compromising safety by grossly overloading their vehicle. I do posit that you can exceed the placard weight and still be within the engineered safety envelope. Besides, who weighs what they put in a truck or Jeep? You have to use common sense.

Could not agree more. Also my unit in Korea used to over load our quarter tons WAY past their designated weight, haha.

 

[Wabujitsu]

Could not agree more. Also my unit in Korea used to over load our quarter tons WAY past their designated weight, haha.

Hey, as long as the quarter ton leaf spring curve wasn’t inverted, you were good to go!

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