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I love it, Looks sharp. The larger rim might be an uncomfortable ride but still looks nice.
So if that is a spring lift you only gained .5" of lift. Rubicon springs are 1" longer than basic OEM springs. So basically you removed a 1" lift kit for a 1.5" lift kit. If its spacer then you obviously gained 1.5 inches.
As I understand it, the lift kits out there are giving numbers if put on a Rubicon. If you get a 1.5 inch lift kit, you are supposed to gain 1.5 inches with a Rubicon. You would get more with a Sahara or Sport. This is the reason why Sports and Sahara's need more components to get the alignment right even though lifting 1.5 to 2 inches.
 

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I love it, Looks sharp. The larger rim might be an uncomfortable ride but still looks nice.
So if that is a spring lift you only gained .5" of lift. Rubicon springs are 1" longer than basic OEM springs. So basically you removed a 1" lift kit for a 1.5" lift kit. If its spacer then you obviously gained 1.5 inches.
Same lift you have Teraflex ST1 spacer. The 35's I am 9" tire to flair on all 4 (bumper and winch also dropped the front 1/2" more). The Rims are 18's with 35's I had them on my JL that only had 7K miles. Here in the PNW not much need to air down but I still do OK at 16-18lbs I was going to go to 37's and 17 wheels however I will be towing behind a Class A DP and managing weight is everything when towing. I am about 600lbs over weight as it is with the 35's.
 
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Same lift you have Teraflex ST1 spacer. The 35's I am 9" tire to flair on all 4 (bumper and winch also dropped the front 1/2" more). The Rims are 18's with 35's I had them on my JL that only had 7K miles. Here in the PNW not much need to air down but I still do OK at 16-18lbs I was going to go to 37's and 17 wheels however I will be towing behind a Class A DP and managing weight is everything when towing. I am about 600lbs over weight as it is with the 35's.
I have the RT3 short arm kit.
 

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May bad I confused you with another person using the eLectricon name that install the the ST1 with 37's
I added 1" spacers to the rear springs for weight compensation on top of the Teraflex, so that's probably what you read. I measured for spring compression. It was 3/4" compressed so I added 1" spacers to over compensate for when I throw gear in the cargo area.
 

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I added 1" spacers to the rear springs for weight compensation on top of the Teraflex, so that's probably what you read. I measured for spring compression. It was 3/4" compressed so I added 1" spacers to over compensate for when I throw gear in the cargo area.
I was going to do with a Spring and shock lift however I will be towing this behind a Diesel Pusher and had it weighed yesterday and it came in at 5900lbs. Most under 40' Motorhomes both gas and diesel have a 5000lb limit. There are exception like Super C but I was shocked at the weight with the 35's and my mods. I still have a set of Teraflex LCA's and Track bars to install. I am nearing the GVRW without cargo.
 

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I was going to do with a Spring and shock lift however I will be towing this behind a Diesel Pusher and had it weighed yesterday and it came in at 5900lbs. Most under 40' Motorhomes both gas and diesel have a 5000lb limit. There are exception like Super C but I was shocked at the weight with the 35's and my mods. I still have a set of Teraflex LCA's and Track bars to install. I am nearing the GVRW without cargo.
My old 2000 Winnie with a 350 Cat was rated at over 10,000 lbs towing and it was only 38'. It was on a Freightliner with an Allison and pre-DEF, tho. Wonder what changed?
 

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As I understand it, the lift kits out there are giving numbers if put on a Rubicon. If you get a 1.5 inch lift kit, you are supposed to gain 1.5 inches with a Rubicon. You would get more with a Sahara or Sport. This is the reason why Sports and Sahara's need more components to get the alignment right even though lifting 1.5 to 2 inches.
Good to know. That had me a little confused too. Do we really need a lift on a Rubi to get 35s under it?
 

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Good to know. That had me a little confused too. Do we really need a lift on a Rubi to get 35s under it?
You don't but it will hit at the extreme range. It shouldn't be any issue for mild trail and street use.
 

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My old 2000 Winnie with a 350 Cat was rated at over 10,000 lbs towing and it was only 38'. It was on a Freightliner with an Allison and pre-DEF, tho. Wonder what changed?
The transmissions changed... the 5000K limit on the new Class A DP' are the Allison transmission. Like everything they are trying to keep cost down and most Toads are below 5K (even non 4xe Wranglers of previous years. I get it why would the RV industry over build for a select few towing more than 5K. However every car is going to start getting heavier with the electric generation, hell my Tesla Model S weights over 4K lbs. I figure I can get the weight down to 5200-5300lbs where that is likely fine and we will disconnect and drive the TOAD separately over any mountain passes.
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