Overlanding | Trade JT For 2 Door--Am I Crazy?

entropy

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 19, 2018
Messages
2,439
Reaction score
3,633
Location
Pasadena
Vehicle(s)
Jeep Wrangler Sport S JL 2-D
Build Thread
Link
Occupation
Data Scientist
Yes, happy to share. Pics are my previous 2-door, but I'm back in another JLR and wouldn't want a JLU for my needs. I included a pic of my solo/2person setup using no back seat. To carry a third person and leave rear seat in place, I built a platform that goes over the folded rear seat at night and extends just over the center armrest (legs are just long enough to carry the load off the armrest). It's 1/2" plywood 36x48" using 1" dowels as legs attached with studs/wingnuts. Trick is to cut the leg lengths to support in conjunction with the plywood laying on the folded rear seat. It stores in the RTT during the day. The front passenger seat needs to be folded all the way forward. So long as you're under 6 ft, it's actually not a bad space to sleep.

Those grocery totes fit perfectly behind the rear set while it's up and under the platform at night. Bins for gear and cooking supplies ride in the 4th position in the back seat. The key to successfully fitting is the use of the TrailRack over the spare. I ditch my fridge and store a cooler and water jug there. A hitch platform would work as well, but I carry bikes.

There are a lot of ways to do more with less. Carefully choose gear you need to take and it's not as much to clean up when you get home! Happy trails!

JL Regular Setup.jpg


JL Platform 1.jpg


JL Platform 2.jpg


JL Platform 3.jpg


JL Tailgater.jpg


JL Trailrack.jpg


JL Trairack 2.jpg
Sick setup. I think you managed to use all the deadspace in the JL lol. I feel lame now for getting a trailer.
Advertisement

 

longlivethemanual

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 29, 2019
Messages
51
Reaction score
107
Location
Oregon
Vehicle(s)
2021 JLR 3.6L 6MT
Sick setup. I think you managed to use all the deadspace in the JL lol. I feel lame now for getting a trailer.
Now you can do both! I still think about a trailer and might just build one to carry gear and the RTT someday. The RTT on the Thule bars is a bit sketch, but it was intended to be temporary until Rhino released a JL backbone. I certainly have given it a full validation test. Once they came with JLU setup, I'm hearing they are back in development for JL. I really like being self-contained and optimizing every cubic inch. On the flip side, a trailer that can be left for base camp would leave a naked Jeep for the trails. I love the maneuverability of the JL and a JLU is overkill for me. I'm fortunate it's not my daily driver, which I know can push some people into four doors.
 

Reinen

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 10, 2021
Messages
701
Reaction score
1,459
Location
Utah
Vehicle(s)
2021 Jeep Wrangler JL Rubicon
Now you can do both! I still think about a trailer and might just build one to carry gear and the RTT someday. The RTT on the Thule bars is a bit sketch, but it was intended to be temporary until Rhino released a JL backbone. I certainly have given it a full validation test. Once they came with JLU setup, I'm hearing they are back in development for JL. I really like being self-contained and optimizing every cubic inch. On the flip side, a trailer that can be left for base camp would leave a naked Jeep for the trails. I love the maneuverability of the JL and a JLU is overkill for me. I'm fortunate it's not my daily driver, which I know can push some people into four doors.
FYI, Maximus-3 has a roll bar supported rhino rack available for the 2dr JL. It's rock solid, 900 lbs static / 300 lbs moving. My only criticism of it is I wouldn't recommend it if you regularly swap between hard/soft/no top. Although it only requires removing 8 additional bolts to remove the hard top (the rack remains secured to the hard top), the 4 front bolts over the sound bar are extremely tight to get to and not fun to deal with.

I'm leaning towards a small off road trailer myself as it resolves my #1 issue with RTTs, the difficulty of claiming a campsite while you go on unencumbered excursions. In some places that's a big issue. I'm coming from a backpacking mentality so the 2dr w/o back seat is already a lot of room to me and the tiniest trailer with an RTT would be luxurious.
 

longlivethemanual

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 29, 2019
Messages
51
Reaction score
107
Location
Oregon
Vehicle(s)
2021 JLR 3.6L 6MT
FYI, Maximus-3 has a roll bar supported rhino rack available for the 2dr JL. It's rock solid, 900 lbs static / 300 lbs moving. My only criticism of it is I wouldn't recommend it if you regularly swap between hard/soft/no top. Although it only requires removing 8 additional bolts to remove the hard top (the rack remains secured to the hard top), the 4 front bolts over the sound bar are extremely tight to get to and not fun to deal with.

I'm leaning towards a small off road trailer myself as it resolves my #1 issue with RTTs, the difficulty of claiming a campsite while you go on unencumbered excursions. In some places that's a big issue. I'm coming from a backpacking mentality so the 2dr w/o back seat is already a lot of room to me and the tiniest trailer with an RTT would be luxurious.
Thanks for the Maximus-3 tip. It's my plan B as I agree, the extra time with fasteners is the downside. I built hoists for tent and top and committed to having them both off more frequently. If Rhino drags its feet much longer with a JL Backbone then Maximus-3 might be the solution.

I do like my self contained setup with RTT for the fact that I tend to wander and make my own sites, without staying in one place consecutive nights. A trailer would definitely say "this site is taken" more than an old camping stool for sure.
 

MNML_OVRLND

Member
First Name
Charles
Joined
May 9, 2020
Messages
18
Reaction score
63
Location
New York
Vehicle(s)
2019 JL Sport S
We have done overlanding trips all over the country in our 2 door JL. Sport. We traded down from a 4 door and really found it made us just take what we need vs all of the creature comforts. 100% doable, but we also do a lot of kayak camping / bike packing etc, so we are use to a more minimal setup. Longest trip we have done is 19 days (10k miles) going from NY to CA and back along the US Mexico border. Planning another big trip this June out to Ouray to run the mountain passes.

Do you and whatever feels right, I think it’s pretty awesome that you could just port over most of your gear / mods and be good to go. Can’t go wrong either way. I’d be lying if I said I didn’t miss the 4 doors sometimes and easy access through the back seat doors though!

19ED9ED8-A05D-48D1-AEFC-60979D48EC4C.jpeg


52E5EC53-F292-43F4-AC47-1F615FC8BBDF.jpeg


FC8807DC-53F3-4C6E-9840-930AA116606F.jpeg


AA2909BD-2B6B-4DCB-A757-01E61DCDFF8F.jpeg


83D5FE40-FC1F-4C6E-8D03-DC3CF2A99AB8.jpeg


E9A832AD-225E-403E-85B7-FC89D1306845.jpeg
 

WSTruck

New Member
First Name
Will
Joined
Jun 3, 2019
Messages
4
Reaction score
3
Location
Washington
Vehicle(s)
4Runner
I think you should do it! If you’re willing to pack light and you’re only going by yourself or with one other person I think you could easily make it work. In the overlanding space people often way overpack and overbuild their vehicle - it’s important to be safe and prepared but 99% of what I see is overkill. A mildly built 2 Door Rubicon with the back seat out and only the essentials will feel like a revelation and be an absolute joy to drive. My girlfriend and I have way scaled down what we pack in my 4Runner and I’ve removed quite a bit of weight as well, just that has felt like a huge relief and made trips more fun and easy.
 

ModMike

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 15, 2020
Messages
69
Reaction score
13
Location
Quebec
Vehicle(s)
2020 Jeep JL Willy’s
Many people are trading in their JLTs for different reasons. Brad at trail recon said it was too big and kept him out of trails. He also said everything was always dirty and he camps a lot.

i would get the 4 door. We have the 2 door and over landing gear is next to unavailable. Backbone rack? Not really. Maximus has one but stupid expensive.

The list goes on and on. It’s my sons (his Jeep) biggest regret. Most aftermarket storage gear just doesn’t fit. Now he needs to take out the rear seat to get the fridge in.

If you’re a camper, get the 4 door.
 

sheram

Well-Known Member
First Name
Stan
Joined
May 25, 2016
Messages
104
Reaction score
130
Location
Athens, Ga
Vehicle(s)
"Therapy Jeep" '19 RUBICON 2DR A Real Jeep
Occupation
Retired
So, I'm tossing around the idea of trading my built out Gladiator for a JL--likely a 2 door, and I'm looking for input. I like the 4 doors as well, but I've always loved the 2 doors and how maneuverable and capable they are. My primary recreational use for the vehicle is camping, exploring, and overlanding, but it is my daily driver as well so I appreciate drivability and economy.

I almost feel like I *overbuilt* with my JT. I absolutely love it, but to be honest, it almost seems like too much for my purposes. I adventure almost exclusively solo. I wouldn't mind downsizing and being a bit more selective with what gear I take out with me, while getting a package that is even more capable (on trails) and economical than my JT. What got me thinking about this is the very high sale/trade offers that I have gotten--I'm being offered more for it than what I paid for it brand new off of the lot. I have a large amount of equity in the JT, and my losses on aftermarket parts would be negligible since I can carry over many of the add-ons to the JL platform (seat covers, command center, wheels and tires, Tazer, all LED lights, dual battery kit, compressor, solar setup, rooftop tent, fridge, etc, etc).

I'm aware that I'm posting this on a JL forum, but if you were in my shoes, taking the above in to consideration, what would you do? Pros and cons? I'm just looking for some other perspectives. Thanks!

IMG_20210406_051838_790.jpg
So, I'm tossing around the idea of trading my built out Gladiator for a JL--likely a 2 door, and I'm looking for input. I like the 4 doors as well, but I've always loved the 2 doors and how maneuverable and capable they are. My primary recreational use for the vehicle is camping, exploring, and overlanding, but it is my daily driver as well so I appreciate drivability and economy.

I almost feel like I *overbuilt* with my JT. I absolutely love it, but to be honest, it almost seems like too much for my purposes. I adventure almost exclusively solo. I wouldn't mind downsizing and being a bit more selective with what gear I take out with me, while getting a package that is even more capable (on trails) and economical than my JT. What got me thinking about this is the very high sale/trade offers that I have gotten--I'm being offered more for it than what I paid for it brand new off of the lot. I have a large amount of equity in the JT, and my losses on aftermarket parts would be negligible since I can carry over many of the add-ons to the JL platform (seat covers, command center, wheels and tires, Tazer, all LED lights, dual battery kit, compressor, solar setup, rooftop tent, fridge, etc, etc).

I'm aware that I'm posting this on a JL forum, but if you were in my shoes, taking the above in to consideration, what would you do? Pros and cons? I'm just looking for some other perspectives. Thanks!

IMG_20210406_051838_790.jpg
Rule # 12…gear will expand to fill the amount of space available. In other words if they made a JL 6 door you could and probably would fill it up with gear. I’m on my 5th 2dr. I’ve been cross country dozens of times. Every trip I take I learn things not to take. If you take what you need and leave the “what if this happens” stuff at home or the store shelf you will have plenty of space and a lot more money.
 

Oldbear

Well-Known Member
First Name
Dwayne
Joined
Sep 1, 2020
Messages
462
Reaction score
511
Location
Bowling Green, Ky
Vehicle(s)
16 Ram 1500 Ecodiesel; 20 JL Sport S 2 door
I’ll give you my two pfennig/perspective...
I must be a contrarian because I’ve never understood the colossal sales success/appeal of big trucks in the good ole USA.
Big Trucks take up way too much contact patch for my liking.
Big Trucks are generally clumsy & poor handling, with poor braking and other poor performance metrics.
People who utilize/need trucks for their craft - totally understood!
Here is my point, if Jeep offered a two door JT with a small bed (5’), I’d buy one. I like small trucks. They’re cool!
I think the JT is just too damn big/long/cumbersome.
This is my fourth 2 door Wrangler. Love em!
YMMV...

cheers/B
Yeah, sign me up for a 2dr Jeep pickup as well. Would be a great rig!
 

alksion

Well-Known Member
First Name
Josiah
Joined
Jan 3, 2021
Messages
1,671
Reaction score
1,940
Location
Brea, CA
Vehicle(s)
21 Rubicon 392, 21 Sahara Altitude
Occupation
Biz Owner
I like the look of JTs when they are modified with lifts and 39” tires. I would eventually consider getting one when and if a good tune comes out for the EcoDeisel. It would however be 3rd or 4th vehicle purchase. My goal eventually is to own 8 of my favorite cars/Jeeps.

In the meantime, I will stick with an off road based trailer, which will store everything we need for camping inside of it. During the normal commuting weeks, I’ll have nothing in my Jeep but a stock 392. I’m always looking for just the bare essentials to pack. That’s half the fun.
 
Advertisement

Morris 4x4 Center
 
Advertisement
Top