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I like to drive around with my gear indicator set to always be showing on the dash, and I think a lot of people drive it like this.

Why would Jeep design the paddle shifter software so that when you tap them for a shift, your gear indicator icon disappears? If you hold down the + shifter to go back into auto mode, the gear indicator reappears...

I know that shifting into 'M' mode will permanently leave the indicator on the dash, but when I want to pass someone quickly I don't want to take my hands off the wheel to see what gear I'm in when I drop down one or two. I've driven motorcycles all my life, so I know it isn't a huge deal always knowing what gear I'm in. But still, IMO it's a dumb design and shouldn't go away when using the paddles.

**Disclaimer - I don't have a 392, but I've added the paddles into my JLURD, and I was told this behavior is normal for 392's. If it's not what actually happens to ya'll I'm sorry in advance**
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Sounds like a glitch/software issue maybe? I rented a Chrysler 300 w/ paddle shifters a couple months ago, it showed the gear.

I should add that they were pretty slick, if I wasn't a MT guy I would %100 be installing them.
 

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The title is almost correct.
Our Paddle Shifters Are Dumb. There, that's better. Kidding, I'm just messing with you.

Clearly you like them or else you wouldn't have installed them, but I'm not a fan. I've had them in multiple vehicles and find them to be pointless. IF the vehicle is a manual transmission and meant/built to be regularly driven a high speed, then sure I can see some purpose. I've never had such a vehicle, hence them being pointless to me.

And rather than down shifting via paddles or buttons, you can simply lift your foot off the throttle and then smash it back down. The Jeep will automatically down shift.
For all of those who are about to say it's stupid to lift off the throttle when you want to pass, this is exactly the same thing you do when you shift a manual transmission so it's not unreasonable.

That said, if you have your owner justification for them, more power to you. I'm not posting to bash your mod. In fact I think it's cool that you did it.
I can't really help with the problem, but kudos to you for putting in a feature you like. It may not be for me, but any customization the the owner likes is very cool indeed.
One suggestion I do have for the problem though, is to check with Taser, Super Chips or some other tuner and see if they have a fix? Companies like those do a lot of interesting stuff, and many of the things they come up with have started with people asking if they can do it.
 

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So the whole time I was writing that I was could hear Jeremy Clarkson in my head complaining about the "flappy paddle gearbox." He started out hating them but as the episodes continued on you could see they started to grow on him.

LOL, I just looked for a clip of him saying it and someone did a compilation on them all talking about them.
 
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The title is almost correct.
Our Paddle Shifters Are Dumb. There, that's better. Kidding, I'm just messing with you.

Clearly you like them or else you wouldn't have installed them, but I'm not a fan. I've had them in multiple vehicles and find them to be pointless. IF the vehicle is a manual transmission and meant/built to be regularly driven a high speed, then sure I can see some purpose. I've never had such a vehicle, hence them being pointless to me.

And rather than down shifting via paddles or buttons, you can simply lift your foot off the throttle and then smash it back down. The Jeep will automatically down shift.
For all of those who are about to say it's stupid to lift off the throttle when you want to pass, this is exactly the same thing you do when you shift a manual transmission so it's not unreasonable.

That said, if you have your owner justification for them, more power to you. I'm not posting to bash your mod. In fact I think it's cool that you did it.
I can't really help with the problem, but kudos to you for putting in a feature you like. It may not be for me, but any customization the the owner likes is very cool indeed.
One suggestion I do have for the problem though, is to check with Taser, Super Chips or some other tuner and see if they have a fix? Companies like those do a lot of interesting stuff, and many of the things they come up with have started with people asking if they can do it.
That's a good idea, thanks! I'm not the biggest advocate for paddle shifters; I mostly just installed the 392 wheel because I liked the thicker bolstering.. The paddle shifters came with it, so I figured why not.

I think they're actually more useful for off-roading than anything. In the diesel I've got so much torque that being in 1 or 2 makes me spin tires too quickly, so I like to run in manual mode. The paddles let me keep two hands on the wheel when I'm in a sketchy situation but need to shift.
 

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Ooo, I'll bet that's cool. It is a nice looking wheel.
 

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Once you go off road with paddle shifters, like crawl with them, you wonder why they are only on the 392. Best thing for keeping your hands on the wheel and staying focused.

But on road they are what they are on a Jeep. they are not my first set of shifters, I have had SMG and PDK vehicles. And when you are serious about driving and can’t get a manual trans. They are important.
 
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Will be my first vehicle with paddle shifters. With a couple of high HP icons with manual transmissions in the garage, I don't expect to use them much if any.
 

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Once you go off road with paddle shifters, like crawl with them, you wonder why they are only the 392. Best thing for keeping your hands on the wheel and staying focused.

But on road they are what they are on a Jeep. they are not my first set of shifters, I have had SMG and PDK vehicles. And when you are serious about driving and can’t get a manual trans. They are important.
X2. *Love* my paddle shifters off road. Also always drive in M mode offroad. I don’t like how my 392 shifts in D when in 4 Low. My only complaint on the paddle shifters is the delay when shifting at WOT between 5500-6000. You have to time it *just* right or it’ll fall on its face as it hits the limiter and *then* it’ll shift. Kind of annoying when you’re trying to haul ass in M mode.
 

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I like to drive around with my gear indicator set to always be showing on the dash, and I think a lot of people drive it like this.

Why would Jeep design the paddle shifter software so that when you tap them for a shift, your gear indicator icon disappears? If you hold down the + shifter to go back into auto mode, the gear indicator reappears...

I know that shifting into 'M' mode will permanently leave the indicator on the dash, but when I want to pass someone quickly I don't want to take my hands off the wheel to see what gear I'm in when I drop down one or two. I've driven motorcycles all my life, so I know it isn't a huge deal always knowing what gear I'm in. But still, IMO it's a dumb design and shouldn't go away when using the paddles.

**Disclaimer - I don't have a 392, but I've added the paddles into my JLURD, and I was told this behavior is normal for 392's. If it's not what actually happens to ya'll I'm sorry in advance**
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I like to drive around with my gear indicator set to always be showing on the dash, and I think a lot of people drive it like this.

Why would Jeep design the paddle shifter software so that when you tap them for a shift, your gear indicator icon disappears? If you hold down the + shifter to go back into auto mode, the gear indicator reappears...

I know that shifting into 'M' mode will permanently leave the indicator on the dash, but when I want to pass someone quickly I don't want to take my hands off the wheel to see what gear I'm in when I drop down one or two. I've driven motorcycles all my life, so I know it isn't a huge deal always knowing what gear I'm in. But still, IMO it's a dumb design and shouldn't go away when using the paddles.

**Disclaimer - I don't have a 392, but I've added the paddles into my JLURD, and I was told this behavior is normal for 392's. If it's not what actually happens to ya'll I'm sorry in advance**
fyi - that is different than mine. I do use manual mode/paddle shifters. Current gear stays illuminated the entire time.
 

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I use the paddle shifters almost exclusively, and the gear indicator has always worked.

The only time I really wish I had a stick shifter is when going around corners and needing to upshift. When the steering wheel is in a certain position, it's a pain to get to the paddle. So, if I'm on curvy roads, I revert back to regular automatic mode.
 

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That, and when the wheel is cranked 90 degrees from top dead center during a right hand turn, the paddles are a real pain. A stick shift is easy to work with - but having to keep both hands at the 9 o'clock and 3 o'clock position all the time really can be annoying (and embarrassing when you completely miss that upshift when exiting the turn).
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