ORACLE LED Headlights with halo for JL

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Im playing devils avocate here but im wondering if dicking around with swaping bulps in headlights and tail lights and in fenders, wires to halo’s etc is worth it vs. checking a box for $ 800, and being done with it.
In retrospect yes, but some of us have already bought the Jeep with halogens so we need SOLUTIONS!!! Lol
 

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Im playing devils avocate here but im wondering if dicking around with swaping bulps in headlights and tail lights and in fenders, wires to halo’s etc is worth it vs. checking a box for $ 800, and being done with it.
There is no box to check for the Sport.
 

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Did you need resistors for the LES headlight bulbs? I’ve read a comment or two on reviews saying they had to order some after getting some flickering.
 
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Did you need resistors for the LES headlight bulbs? I’ve read a comment or two on reviews saying they had to order some after getting some flickering.
The bulbs come with everything you need. I have no flickering.

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Best thing about halogen-
Melts the snow and can find a bulb nearly anywhere ....
I replaced the stock bulb with Silverstar (not Ultra, they don't last long) and I'm happy with the lights. LEDs definitely put out more light but in rain or fog that's actually not good. No need to flame me if you love LEDs, I'll probably swap once the price comes down to a reasonable level.

BTW, I've tried LED bulbs in a prior vehicle and agree 100% that that's not the way to go. A halogen reflector needs a halogen bulb.

p.s. Everyone says pull the front grill to change bulbs. Poppycock. Change the driver side just by removing the bulb cover. For the passenger side remove the art intake (2 clamps) and pull the airbox straight up. Piece of cake.
 
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I replaced the stock bulb with Silverstar (not Ultra, they don't last long) and I'm happy with the lights. LEDs definitely put out more light but in rain or fog that's actually not good. No need to flame me if you love LEDs, I'll probably swap once the price comes down to a reasonable level.

BTW, I've tried LED bulbs in a prior vehicle and agree 100% that that's not the way to go. A halogen reflector needs a halogen bulb.

p.s. Everyone says pull the front grill to change bulbs. Poppycock. Change the driver side just by removing the bulb cover. For the passenger side remove the art intake (2 clamps) and pull the airbox straight up. Piece of cake.
There are a few benefits to halogen, but to a lot of people brighter is better and they want the look. I can always turn off fog lights and personally I want more light for off road purposes. Taking full advantage of stock light positions is the first step to having a nice blended pattern and full coverage off road.

I really enjoy the sharing of different perspectives here.

I’m no giant, but my hand is too big to maneuver properly to get to the back of the housing, at least on the driver side. Popping the grill is pretty easy, although that process is slightly more time-consuming.
 

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Can you tell if they dim when the headlights are on? I'm going to try flipping my LED aftermarket bulbs over to see if the 2 prong connector is just matching up to the higher intensity only or something.
My DRLs dim (to about half brightness) when the full lighting system is turned on, or when the full lighting comes on when using Auto mode
 

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Just wanted to say thanks for all the posts on this subject. I have Oracle Halo's coming and your hard work and input is awesome and helpful (I think I've read all the posts on this subject, so forgive me if I missed something). 2 things for me (JLUR non LED pkg), my DRL's go out while the turn signals are engaged, I'm guessing the Halos's would follow suit if tied into those?

So just to go thru the stock lights and swt settings so we are all clear; When the light swt is set to off "O", engine running and the ebrake is released, the DRL's come on (reminder this is on my '18 JLUR and sounds like its different on other models), When swt is turned to the first (next) position the marker and parking/running lights (the lower powered "dim" whatever you want to call those lights) and DRL's are actually both on. It's hard to tell, but if you do this at night and parked against something very close, you can see it change. In the next position (manual headlight position), headlights come on and the DRL's don't dim, they drop out and the marker and parking/running lights stay on even when blinker is turned on. Auto position would emulate manual headlight position when dark enough. I read there are 3? wires to DRL/running lights on the fender, so there must be 2 circuits and 2 elements in the bulb assuming it's one bulb, much like old school 1157 tail/brake/turn signal light bulb. DRL's are the brighter element and the parking/running light the dimmer element. Also pushing in on the center of the swt turns the fog lights on in any position except for off "O". The fog lights turn off when you turn the high beams on, back on when back to low beam (sheew, I think I got that all right!?).

I actually would like to figure out how to keep the Halo's on all the time, whenever vehicle is moving day or night (regardless of swt position), but don't really want to tie into aux swts and do it manually each time. I'm not sure if any of the programmers overcome any of this? I thought I read somewhere that the DRL's can be programmed to always be on regardless of headlight or blinker?? I guess you could always tie into the marker or parking/running lights and just turn swt to first click. I'm not sure what those halo's draw for power.

As someone mentioned, this may all seem a bit silly, I like to be different (my nickname has been "freakshow" for 20+ years) and I'm impatient. I bought my JLUR off the lot. The only thing it was missing (that I had on my list), was the LED and the Aux swt options. I've already added the S-TECH lighting control so that's done. I like to tinker and figure things out anyway.. so for me, this is fun (I know.. I'm a little sick that way!). If I come up with anything, I will comment and of course follow any ideas here as well. Again I'm sorry if I've duplicated anything here that was already said. It can be a bit overwhelming to search and read it all.
 

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So as soon as I pressed "post", I realized something. I could tie into my Aux swt and just leave that swt in the on position all the time since it is switch thru the S-TECH control box when ignition is turned on. I do this now with my LED Christmas wreath on the front of my jeep! Sometimes you just have to talk things thru!! haha.
 

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Let me know how the kit works for you. I’m hoping there aren’t any flickering issues as I don’t want to add resistors.
 
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So as soon as I pressed "post", I realized something. I could tie into my Aux swt and just leave that swt in the on position all the time since it is switch thru the S-TECH control box when ignition is turned on. I do this now with my LED Christmas wreath on the front of my jeep! Sometimes you just have to talk things thru!! haha.
Funny you say that, because that is originally how I was going to wire them. For my purposes demonstrating to a larger audience (many of whom may not have a Rubi with factory aux switches), I thought I would go this route. The halos are super low draw! I am enjoying the setup!
 
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Let me know how the kit works for you. I’m hoping there aren’t any flickering issues as I don’t want to add resistors.
No flicker here!
 

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