One Confusing part of the Rubicon vs. Sahara question.

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Real world answer here: Ask your wife which she would rather see you in. I thought I would be buying the Sahara (like I had 22 years ago about the time I married her). She was impressed with the ride quality in the Sahara and I loved the auto 4WD like we had in our cars. She loved the look of the Rubi more for me - she liked that it was less common and had a commanding look to it. She thought I should throw conservatism to the wind and live a little. The ride quality was similar to the Sahara and manual was available. I bought the Rubi and I love it. I will probably never rock crawl in it and that is ok. I know I paid for more than I need since it is my commuting car. If I just wanted to commute, I would have bought a Hyundai Sonata. I like the car and I like the way I feel in the car - and I am not compensating for anything. I am 49 and I bought it because that is what I liked. We are all at different points in our lives. In my life, I am at the Rubicon.....





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I was looking at an online build of a Jeep with everything that I wanted from a Sahara, the LED lights, the 8.4 inch Uconnect and the cold weather group. In British Columbia, Canada a 2019 Sahara comes to $62,192 CAD after sales tax.

A 2019 Rubicon is $67,850 CAD, so a $5658CAD differences, It seems like the extra equipment and capability of the Rubicon is worth much more than that price difference so why would someone want a Sahara over a Rubicon when it seems like you're getting so much more for your money? What options or capability does a Sahara have that you can't get with a Rubicon?
Get a Sahara and enjoy it on the road - the auto 4wd and limited slip rear differential and creature comforts are great. If you later decide to do some off-roading that is beyond the capabilities of the stock Sahara, put a small lift, bigger tires and a single *front* locker on it. A Jeep with a front locker and a rear limited slip is going to be almost as capable as a Jeep with two lockers. It is certainly going to be capable of some pretty serious trails. That way you can have your Sahara cake and eat it too should your Jeeping progress to more serious trails. (Caveat: just don't go crazy with that set up - the Sahara axles and suspension are not as rugged as the Rubicon, and a locker adds a lot of stress on the CV joints, so don't go overboard with extreme rock crawling.)
 

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Yeah she deff wants big tires. 5ft 2 in wife and she wants bigger tires like on my jeep lol. I know JK's really well, not as much JL's. From what I understand she would have no issue driving 35's without a lift on the new jl rubicon right? She won't take it offroad (real off road) for a long while so I know she would eventually need a lift.

the 4.1 gears work fine for my JK and 35s, so there shouldn't be a problem with the JL 4.1 and 35's I'd assume. We don't live in any major mountains like out west so the gears work fine for my jk.

Thanks for the advice btw.
Yep, 35s fit on a Rubicon JL no problem - drove one that way for a couple months before I got around to installing my lift. However, if your wife is really 5'2", keep in mind that she may have some trouble getting into the vehicle. Rubicons have compact rock rails instead of steps and even without a lift, they sit higher. Add 35s and you've added another inch. Add a lift and, well, get a step stool to leave in the vehicle...
 

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For me it really had nothing to do with lockers and disconnects when I bought the Rubicon, although I will use them once in a while, probably not necessary. I also don’t plan on driving much in the winter. What is necessary with the rubicon especially if you plan on larger tires is the 410 gears and the Dana 44 front axle. If I planned on keeping the Jeep stock, Sahara probably would have been sufficient. Either way you really can’t go wrong.
 

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Yep, 35s fit on a Rubicon JL no problem - drove one that way for a couple months before I got around to installing my lift. However, if your wife is really 5'2", keep in mind that she may have some trouble getting into the vehicle. Rubicons have compact rock rails instead of steps and even without a lift, they sit higher. Add 35s and you've added another inch. Add a lift and, well, get a step stool to leave in the vehicle...
I have a 2014 jeep rubicon 4dr that has 35's and a 3.5 inch metal cloak lift....she's used to the height lol
 

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Saharas are WAY SUPERIOR at taking trips to the mall. The Rubicon bucks and fights these trips to shopping centers. It really hates smooth finished pavement. So for taking trips to the mall, the Sahara is way way better.
I don’t care for all the snarky mall comments it’s so stupid. Whatever someone wants to drive it for is fine it doesn’t make you any cooler because you take it through a mountain. Jeeps are a lifestyle and one lifestyle isn’t any better than the other. You might assume I take mine to the mall by the looks of me but you shouldn’t judge a book by its cover. Enjoy your jeep how you see fit!!

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I don’t care for all the snarky mall comments it’s so stupid. Whatever someone wants to drive it for is fine it doesn’t make you any cooler because you take it through a mountain. Jeeps are a lifestyle and one lifestyle isn’t any better than the other. You might assume I take mine to the mall by the looks of me but you shouldn’t judge a book by its cover. Enjoy your jeep how you see fit!!

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Oh and this is a Sahara by the way! It did just fine up the mountain
 

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I agree with Nconnelly, and I also bought a Sahara. I wanted a manual trans Rubi, and the wife wanted an auto trans Sahara. She won, because she liked the esthetics of the Sahara, and the transfer case. The reality is that we only drive off road occasionally and the wife drives the Jeep to work. The transfer case was fantastic this winter with the record snowfall we got here in the PNW, and the Jeep went anywhere, just like a Jeep should.
Not sure why there are so many nasty comments on here but last I checked this was a JL forum, and all of us drive a JL. Can't we all just answer peoples questions with friendly thoughtful answers instead of arguing over what model JL is the best Jeep?
 

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Compare it to sports. People can have a favorite game, but when you bring up the teams they follow, arguments and teasing start. This thread has put two teams against each other. Trash talk ensues. Some people can be aholes about it, but it’s mostly just fans being fans. Not worth getting bent out of shape over.
 

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Oh and this is a Sahara by the way! It did just fine up the mountain
Sahara's are pretty damn nice and capable enough for most people's needs. I damn near bought one because I wanted the Auto4WD real bad...haha...it's hard to give that up after being used to having it for 15yrs in other rigs.
 

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LMAO at all the people justifying their own jeeps to others.

WGAS what anyone buys for for whatever reasons. Whether you need to buy a Rubicon because you need to feel more manly, or you use the lockers and swaybar disconnect everytime you drive it, so what. Who's business is it other then your own?

Same for any other model. You buy it to go to the mall, or you get your leather seats covered in mud every weekend, who gives a rat's ass why you bought what you did.
Well, we ended up buying a Rubicon. The REASON we bought a Rubicon?? Because my wife wanted it. No other reason needed.....

Maybe I'll run over a curb at the mall, or maybe I'll rip the fenders off in the woods. Most likely both.
 

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I really struggled with the decision between Sahara and Rubicon. I chose Sahara because I thought the Selec-trac would fit my needs better but I wanted the Rubicon look. I've spent thousands of dollars making my Sahara look like a Rubicon. I wish now I had just bought a Rubicon but what's done is done. I love my ride and can re-gear and add lockers if I need to. Too many people like to be douche bags. If you drive a Jeep, why rag on another Jeeper? I don't get, but I'm not a bully.
 

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I really struggled with the decision between Sahara and Rubicon. I chose Sahara because I thought the Selec-trac would fit my needs better but I wanted the Rubicon look. I've spent thousands of dollars making my Sahara look like a Rubicon. I wish now I had just bought a Rubicon but what's done is done. I love my ride and can re-gear and add lockers if I need to. Too many people like to be douche bags. If you drive a Jeep, why rag on another Jeeper? I don't get, but I'm not a bully.
Same here. I went to the dealer with all intentions of getting a Rubicon. When I arrived they just unloaded a MOAB which I had never seen or heard of. I liked the Sahara for its ride, leather interior/dash and liked the aggressive looks of the Rubicon and this model had both in the perfect amounts. After having it now for a few months I could not be happier. Get what you like and screw the haters.
 

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Same here. I went to the dealer with all intentions of getting a Rubicon. When I arrived they just unloaded a MOAB which I had never seen or heard of. I liked the Sahara for its ride, leather interior/dash and liked the aggressive looks of the Rubicon and this model had both in the perfect amounts. After having it now for a few months I could not be happier. Get what you like and screw the haters.
I would have ordered a MOAB if I could have gotten it with a black hardtop. Just do not like the body color hardtops. Got a Sahara like we had before and am happy with it. May be down the line line some mods to make it more aggressive looking but I probably have all the capability I need for any off-roading we might be doing in the near future.
 

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Like many others, I contemplated this a lot too. I have/had no intentions of rock crawling and extreme trails. Some light trails, mudding, etc are all I saw in my future. I was set on the Sahara, until I saw the MOAB. To me, the MOAB is a perfect mix of the two. I know there's a lot of controversy on here (stupid in my opinion) on why people would buy a MOAB but to me it was the selec-trac and leather dash (didn't care for red dash in the rubicons and living in new england selec-trac is great) as well as a good mix of the rubicon hood and steel front bumper. That and it had all the other features I wanted (LED, proximity, 8.4, etc.). The ONLY thing I would've liked from the rubicon are the dana 44's and the gearing. I've had my MOAB for 4 months and love it. Have a 3" lift on it, running 35's and Falcon steering stabilizer and it runs great! Get what you want, what you like and what resonates with you and enjoy every minute of it!
 

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