On the return leg home from an errand... checked out Bronco inventory

[The Last Cowboy]

Slightly adjusted scope here, I work with a lot of people who live paycheck to paycheck and I didn't expect it due to their middle-class or above wages. While I agree that personal responsibility can get you out of it, the fact remains that over half the US population lives that way. What's bad for over half the population will have knock-on effects for the rest of us (so like 2008, but hopefully not as bad). Not saying you need to have pity, but even with selfish reason I think we should be more cognizant of their issues and not totally dismissive else we suffer the consequences.
I'm not smart enough to know what to do about it, or what might happen if things go bad for them. Hopefully just a bunch of repo's and a weird cycle of glut/shortages in the sub-$20k used market. Or the government will usher in an era of subsidized mass-transit/electrical vehicle leases to get everyone back to work.

The current state of affairs in the government will not allow for corporate bailouts. The current situation is actually a dream come true for the green fringe who want everyone out of privately owned motor vehicles, electric or not. Then that means that the roads will need less work and will only have buses, large trucks and the privileged few who can still afford to own, maintain and fuel a vehicle.

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[andrew4fins]

Great thread here. This dealer mark up thing has been going on forever. Just the vehicles change. As long as there’s a hot new vehicle out there, a dealers gonna mark it up. As others have mentioned dealers got fixed overhead costs so less vehicles to sale mean higher prices to offset. No need to gouge though. Our local Jeep dealer sold out last year. Was family owned forever. Decent folks. New guy owns a chain and he does this stuff. Locals been bashing him on FB. Guess I’ve bought my 1st n last Jeep there.

 

[marek]

It really is time to revisit the dealer protection laws. It made some sense 100+ years ago, but they make no sense now…

 

[jimim]

...I stopped to peruse a bit of new inventory.

Welcome to a private showing of three vehicles, displayed here for the first time. Each is valued in its own way, not because of any inherent build quality, but because each captures in the market, illustrated on the window sticker, a frozen moment of an illusory value.

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Our initial offering, a smaller two door in blues and grays. A piece of the past known as the First Edition. Ambitiously priced at ninety nine thousand, inclusive of a forty thousand dollar market adjustment. This one we call simply, A Joke.

Offered to you now, independent front suspension, and all that it implies.

Objet d'vehicle number two. A four door. Its subject, a base configuration. A gloss white example modestly capable of discharging its yeoman duties. An innocuous example of the breed that will soon find its way to the fuel pump, irrespective of the engine's efficiency rating. This is its market adjustment.

And now, the final specimen. The last of our exhibit has to do with one Samsquanch. Another interpretation presented in plain sight. A trim package that aspires to competence off the tarmac.

Guten abend.

shit. . . I grabbed the first one. bargain! thanks so much! (that actually is a cool color). . . I was going to grab the last one cause it was a soft top and that soft top is tiiiiiiiiiight. . . . I mean really loose.

if this isn't taking one for the team I don't know what is. . . you lost how many minutes of your life that you will never get back . . . lol

 

[jimim]

I hadn't intended to take any photos, actually, but every window sticker I looked at had an ever-increasing Market Adjustment written thereon...ending with the comical $40K M.A. for the so-called First Edition. That one floored me, as it's more than I paid for my 2021 JLU.

I just don't see the value proposition. E.g., but for one or two minor aesthetic flourishes, the dashboard looks like something we'd see in any Ford vehicle. The quality of the soft tops isn't doing the Blue Oval any favors, either. The one pictured here wasn't the worst on the lot.

that's American quality at its finest right there. man. . . I mean really. . . I have been saying it since I saw the soft top in preproduction. I figured yah they will work that out. nope.

 

[Dyolfknip74]

Posted a thread on this but it seems fitting here as well.
Apparently this is a big enough deal to make the news down there.

https://www.carscoops.com/2022/01/t...reservation-holders-finance-fell-through/amp/

 

[Gorpf]

A lot of dealerships in California are adding 25K-30K markups on Wrangler 392s regardless of whether you ordered the vehicle or not.

 

[Dyolfknip74]

A lot of dealerships in California are adding 25K-30K markups on Wrangler 392s regardless of whether you ordered the vehicle or not.

They get called out and disregarded on here just as often. Lol.

 

[zrickety]

A lot of dealerships in California are adding 25K-30K markups on Wrangler 392s regardless of whether you ordered the vehicle or not.

There are many for sale at sticker for people willing to travel.

 

[Shogunner]

All this anti capitalism talk makes me chuckle at the absurdity coming from guys buying jeeps that only exist due to the wonders of said economic system.

Complaining about a dealership gouging something that is not a necessity is plain silly. If you dont like the price then don't buy it...and if someone is wealthy enough or dumb enough to pay then hooray for the consumer because the price will go down because capitalism will strike when supply equals demand.

If anything socialistic behavior has brought about a semi conductor shortage and poor business practices by Ford have resulted in delays of a new concept to production as well.

I remember when 40inch 480p flatscreens were $20k. Stupid yeah but thank goodness for the guys that bought them and let me get at 75 inch 4k for $700 now.

 

[aldo98229]

All this anti capitalism talk makes me chuckle at the absurdity coming from guys buying jeeps that only exist due to the wonders of said economic system.

Complaining about a dealership gouging something that is not a necessity is plain silly. If you dont like the price then don't buy it...and if someone is wealthy enough or dumb enough to pay then hooray for the consumer because the price will go down because capitalism will strike when supply equals demand.

If anything socialistic behavior has brought about a semi conductor shortage and poor business practices by Ford have resulted in delays of a new concept to production as well.

I remember when 40inch 480p flatscreens were $20k. Stupid yeah but thank goodness for the guys that bought them and let me get at 75 inch 4k for $700 now.

Welcome to the forum!

So this is what you chose as your very first post?

 

[CT_LFC]

All this anti capitalism talk makes me chuckle at the absurdity coming from guys buying jeeps that only exist due to the wonders of said economic system.

while posting on Google chrome browser on their iPhone sipping on their starbucks coffee as they wait for their Jeep parts to arrive from Amazon.

 

[aldo98229]

Posted a thread on this but it seems fitting here as well.
Apparently this is a big enough deal to make the news down there.

https://www.carscoops.com/2022/01/t...reservation-holders-finance-fell-through/amp/

That link reads like a headline from The Onion...!

 

[aldo98229]

“Thing is, while dealers operate on a weekly or month-to-month horizon, most buyers operate on 3 or 5-year horizon. Which means they will still remember that time the dealer tried to rip them off five years ago, even if all the staff responsible have long left the dealership.”


This is exactly why I bought my Jeep from Karmart in Buringtone rather than Raidon’s, bad experience from the Kirkland Dealership.

Yeah, my local Jeep dealer, Rairdon of Bellingham, is sickening, too. I’ve been making the 30-mile drive to Burlington to get my Jeep serviced by KarMart.

The biggest joke in all of this is Rairdon’s slogan: “Culture of Care”

 

[DigitalDiem]

I read that Ford is putting the hammer down on these dealers and will stop giving them inventory since they are damaging, for many permanently, the brand rep.
I don't any car bad enough to pay a "market adjustment".

I read just the opposite...Ford stated there is nothing they can do that pricing is up to the dealership. I have made the mistake of owning two Ford's in my life. Me er again.

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