Old School Jeep Owner vs new Jeep owner Logic

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Old school
  1. It goes where I need it to go when I need it to go there
  2. Best friend to have with you in the snow, sand, mud or sunshine
  3. It’s running therefore it’s reliable
  4. Squeaks and rattles just means turn the volume up or push harder on the gas peddle
  5. When the top is off I’m always the center of attention and I’m always the center of attention
  6. Jeep wave
New school
  1. It doesn’t handle like my Corolla, BMW, Volvo, etc. so there’s something wrong with it
  2. My steering wheel and seat warmer comes on automatically. After my workout in the morning it’s too hard for me to touch a couple buttons. Jeep engineers are idiots for not letting me turn off that feature!
  3. It’s not perfect and the dealer won’t fix it
  4. It’s a 4 wheel drive?
  5. It’s shaped like a brick and I only get 20MPG with 4.10s, what’s a 4.10?
Love this! Im so tired of reading these forums and seeing all the people complain about every little thing that is not 100% perfect merely because they paid $50,000 for it.
 

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I’m in Costa Rica right now on vacation. I’ve been driving alternatively a 2818 Land Cruiser Platinum and a 2018 Lexus LX580.
Either one of them 3 times the price of my JLUR. More bells and whistles than I can handle, specially that Lexus. Still I wish I was driving my Jeep. I’m telling you, it will be a sad day the one Jeep replaces the stick to select 4wd for a button.
From my old school mind, the only thing the Jeep could envy from those other guys is either one of those engines.
 

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I think I have this figured out,

Old school - my 90 YJ, stupid front axle disconnect

New school - my 18 JL, stupid front axle disconnect.
 

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Old school 1977 cj7 golden eagle
1 driving to big bear to ski wind blows the wire frame doors open while driving get a bigger bungiie cord to close door
2 cute chick next to me on freeway asks me tomgo get a drink with her via sign language

New school
Old fat guy in tank top and flip flops says " yo bro i used to have a jeep but it had plastic u joints.... cool jeep"
Pinched nerve in back ........... seat heat
 

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Old School Jeep owner (my brother in his younger days):
- found a non-running CJ for sale in newspaper (actual paper) classifieds for ~$1K
- borrowed trailer from friend and got it home
- found out engine is trash, steering parts missing, driveshaft welded back together crooked, one axle shaft twisted, broken leaf spring, holes rusted thru floor, windshield cracked, seats eaten by rats, wiring made by rats holding hands, sealed beam headlights- never mind.
-Worked for years on Jeep, shoehorned a smallblock Chevy, granny low 4 speed, transfer case, and Dana 44s, 35s, GM power steering, etc., basically all mechanical parts were replaced. Still looks like crap, but runs good. Rides like crap with leaf springs. Noisy, hot.

New School Jeep owner (me with more money in old age now):
-shopped the internet for a good deal on a new JL Unlimited Rubicon (Stock with 4.10 Dana 44s, lockers, 4:1 lo range, sway disco, 33s, etc).
-Got the upgraded 8.4" stereo with active noise suppression, automatic climate control, carpeted floor mats, cruise control, and hardtop.

-Immediately started bitching about the steering.
-Griped and cussed when the visors fell down
-pissed and moaned about the halogen headlights (which are light years (pun) ahead of all the old sealed beam cars I drove for more than half a mil miles years ago. )

In the end, a bit of my old school blood must still be in me. I fixed the steering myself on my nickel (~$1k) and my work. Same with the visors. Recently installed Morimoto 2 stroke LED bulbs ($200).
 

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Well, if you paid $60k I'd be upset with myself then at the JL. I'd put you in with the Land Rover crowd that pay a lot more for a lot less in quality, resale value and smarts.
It's in my blood apparently? $60K JLUR sitting in the garage next to my wife's LR4 ...
 

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Old School Jeep owner (my brother in his younger days):
- found a non-running CJ for sale in newspaper (actual paper) classifieds for ~$1K
- borrowed trailer from friend and got it home
- found out engine is trash, steering parts missing, driveshaft welded back together crooked, one axle shaft twisted, broken leaf spring, holes rusted thru floor, windshield cracked, seats eaten by rats, wiring made by rats holding hands, sealed beam headlights- never mind.
-Worked for years on Jeep, shoehorned a smallblock Chevy, granny low 4 speed, transfer case, and Dana 44s, 35s, GM power steering, etc., basically all mechanical parts were replaced. Still looks like crap, but runs good. Rides like crap with leaf springs. Noisy, hot.

New School Jeep owner (me with more money in old age now):
-shopped the internet for a good deal on a new JL Unlimited Rubicon (Stock with 4.10 Dana 44s, lockers, 4:1 lo range, sway disco, 33s, etc).
-Got the upgraded 8.4" stereo with active noise suppression, automatic climate control, carpeted floor mats, cruise control, and hardtop.

-Immediately started bitching about the steering.
-Griped and cussed when the visors fell down
-pissed and moaned about the halogen headlights (which are light years (pun) ahead of all the old sealed beam cars I drove for more than half a mil miles years ago. )

In the end, a bit of my old school blood must still be in me. I fixed the steering myself on my nickel (~$1k) and my work. Same with the visors. Recently installed Morimoto 2 stroke LED bulbs ($200).
You got exactly what you expected from a $1,000 Jeep. You are not getting what you expected from a $60,000 Jeep.

It is all about expectations...and getting our money’s worth.
 

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One thing I don’t really like about modern vehicles in general is how finicky all these complex electronics are.

I drove a total of 6,000 miles in 2020, thanks to COVID and working from home. I put 2,000 of those miles in the first 2 months of the year.

With the little driving I do now, and the free time I have working from home: the day the warranty ends on my JL, a part of me wants to sell it and find me an old Jeep to rebuild.
 

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One thing I don’t really like about modern vehicles in general is how finicky all these complex electronics are.

I drove a total of 6,000 miles in 2020, thanks to COVID and working from home. I put 2,000 of those miles in the first 2 months of the year.

With the little driving I do now, and the free time I have working from home: the day the warranty ends on my JL, a part of me wants to sell it and find me an old Jeep to rebuild.
If I had the inclination for such a project, I think I'd get a early JKU and build it with an all aluminum LS (~400hp), 6 or 8 speed auto, either a Rubicon Xfer case or an Atlas, aftermarket Dana 44s. I would keep the cab electronics simple and isolated from the engine harness. No heated seats and built-in Nav. So, I'd probably start with a Sport.
 

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You got exactly what you expected from a $1,000 Jeep. You are not getting what you expected from a $60,000 Jeep.

It is all about expectations...and getting our money’s worth.
You're spot on about that....
But this thread is about some light self-deprecating humor.
 

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My old TJ had a five gallon bucket for a drivers seat, 2-4psi oil pressure, and couldn’t go over 60mph without shaking so hard I thought my friends and I would surely die.

god I loved that thing.
 
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