I agree. I’m at the moment in Australia and just took a ride in the TOYOTA Land Cruiser in the picture. 4 liters turbo. Amazing.To me, the only real competitor to the Wrangler would be the land cruiser 7 series. The real succesor to the FJ40. Came out in 1987 and it's still being produced. But I guess it doesn't make economic sense for toyota to bring it up to US safety standards.
Very true. Fiat Chrysler is already suing over the Roxor. Mahindra has held the patent much longer than them so it will be interesting to see what happens.Oh I fully understand, but consider that there would be plenty of lawsuits that would have to be settled before Mahindra could actually sell a US Street legal Thar here in the states.
Yeah, Licence to produce (not the same as owning the patent) the CJ in India is fine in India, but selling here in the states where FCA actually owns Jeep and all the likeness and other intellectual property is tricky business. I certanly don't think the Roxor is a threat to Wrangler sales, but a street legal Thar is a different story.Very true. Fiat Chrysler is already suing over the Roxor. Mahindra has held the patent much longer than them so it will be interesting to see what happens.
Me too! My guess is it will be bloated and not that capable relative to the Wrangler.I am curious to see what the Bronco looks like
As it stands, there isn’t much that can touch it, but having actual competition would make FCA have to elevate its game and make the Wrangler even better.:cwl::cwl::cwl::cwl::cwl::cwl::cwl::cwl:
Competition against a Wrangler that's hilarious! Especially a Rubicon, stone cold stock it's practically worlds away from ANY competition.
What is this thread even on this forum???
"Competition" ........bahahahahaaaa
Bronco looks sick, but off road capabilities I doubt will come close. I wonder if they will make an "O.J." special edition??Me too! My guess is it will be bloated and not that capable relative to the Wrangler.
As it stands, there isn’t much that can touch it, but having actual competition would make FCA have to elevate its game and make the Wrangler even better.
Lemme rant for a minute.
Oh how I wish this beautiful little G-Class baby brother would hit the U.S. market. How I would love to watch FCA sales decline as more and more people flocked to another solid axle off-road machine. How I would love a small 1.5 liter efficient engine. How I would love to be able to drive in a strait line without unexpectedly veering into oncoming traffic. No longer would I have to feel bad for not waving every 2.8 seconds as some Jabroni drives by me in a Wrangler and wants me to be his friend.
I’d love to bring a few to The States and rub them in FCA’s greedy little faces. No longer can you sell us crappy vehicles. No longer can you compromise quality control and safety just because there are no affordable alternatives to your product.
I declare, if I could trade in my $40,000 Jeep in for this cute little bundle of joy and lose $10,000, I wouldn’t hesitate.
I lived in Colorado for 10 years and wheeled in the Rockies using a couple CJs and Land Rover Series. The Samurai guys had fun in their vehicles, and it could be made into a nice off-roader, although the short wheelbase had it's pluses and minuses depending on the trail. I would not put the Samurai above the TJ Rubicon - or the CJs for that matter. Correct me if wrong, but I recall the stock tcase gearing on the Samurai was nothing to write home about. And it could be a bit under-powered particularly at higher altitude. Agree though would be nice to have competition and options other than the JL.The Suzuki Samurai was more competent offroad thats the TJ Rubicon. There are many videos that prove this.
Yup, I got a kick out of the suzy being more offroad capable then a TJ ruby. I'm certain there are some obstacles where this is really true, but not all that many. And who could live with how dinky the thing is? I thought the 2 dr jeep was small. That suzy would make danny devito feel like a shriner. lolI lived in Colorado for 10 years and wheeled in the Rockies using a couple CJs and Land Rover Series. The Samurai guys had fun in their vehicles, and it could be made into a nice off-roader, although the short wheelbase had it's pluses and minuses depending on the trail. I would not put the Samurai above the TJ Rubicon - or the CJs for that matter. Correct me if wrong, but I recall the stock tcase gearing on the Samurai was nothing to write home about. And it could be a bit under-powered particularly at higher altitude. Agree though would be nice to have competition and options other than the JL.
Bahahahahaaaa, sorry but you moonbats are cracking me up. Look at that thing:cwl::cwl::cwl:
This is probably the nicest samurai available right now. I encourage you to look at it. Problem with the Samurai or the Jimny are the massive changes necessary to make them US legal. Comparing them to 20 year old Wranglers is invalid unless you're shopping for 20 year old Wranglers. In which case good luck finding a Samurai in as good condition as a TJ. This one is a rust-bucket...