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About to place a factory order on 2021 Rubicon with Xtreme Recon. Does anyone know how tall the vehicle will be with the 1.5" lift and 35 tires?

My lowest clearance in my garage is 83.5" and I plan on installing a gobi stealth rack which adds 7.1" in height. If xtreme recon only adds 2" height to vehicle I'll be ok - 3" and I might be in trouble...
7.1" is a lot. I would say place the order and be ready to pivot racks if the measurements don't work. Or get the Jeep and the rack, and get ready to park outside. Based on the number's you might be within half an inch. That's putting a lot of faith in every spec being pretty exact across the board... and that your entrance is total level and going to allow entry at that exact height. If anything comes in slightly larger than spec, you'll be outside for sure.
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The latest info is that the Xtreme Recon package is being forced on all Rubicons with the V6 engine + automatic transmission configuration.

If you want just a regular Rubicon with the automatic, Jeep forces you to take the 2.0T or the 3.0L EcoDiesel.

The ordering screen shot below, courtesy of a member from another forum, shows Xtreme Recon as a requirement when you order 25R, which is Rubicon V6 + 8-speed automatic.

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This is not going to go down well with a lot of buyers. It only makes Rubicon even more expensive than already is.

No offense to 2.0T owners; y'all seem to love your Fiat engine. But trying to force the four banger to get a Rubicon would be a non-starter with me.

If this is the game Jeep wants to keep playing, it better start offering a rear locker as a stand alone option on non-Rubicons. Otherwise once Ford fixes all the screw ups, Bronco is going to eat Jeep’s lunch.
 

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This is not going to go down well with a lot of buyers. It only makes Rubicon even more expensive than already is.
I don't expect this to continue into the next model year. I think this is more a symptom of the current production/chip shortages, model year end, and beating out Bronco on the road and in upcoming reviews.
 

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The latest info is that the Xtreme Recon package is being forced on all Rubicons with the V6 engine + automatic transmission configuration.

If you want just a regular Rubicon with the automatic, Jeep forces you to take the 2.0T or the 3.0L EcoDiesel.

The ordering screen shot below, courtesy of a member from another forum, shows Xtreme Recon as a requirement when you order 25R, which is Rubicon V6 + 8-speed automatic.

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I don't think the 2.0L is available to order at this time either. At least it wasn't when I ordered earlier this month. Maybe that is available now but I don't know. I was on the fence between the 2.0 and the 3.6 so I'm not worried about getting forced to order the 3.6 with the XR package.
 

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I don't think the 2.0L is available to order at this time either. At least it wasn't when I ordered earlier this month. Maybe that is available now but I don't know. I was on the fence between the 2.0 and the 3.6 so I'm not worried about getting forced to order the 3.6 with the XR package.
I'm worried about being forced into the V6 if I wanted the XR package, either. My issue is, if I want a Rubicon V6, I don’t want to be forced into having to get the $4,000 XR package! Which is what Jeep is currently doing.

And yes, you are correct: the same person who shared this screenshot confirmed that you cannot order the 2.0T right now. So if you want a Rubicon automatic, you are forced into the XR and the V6, or the diesel. All of which add $$$ fast!
 
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2dr Rubicon don't yet have an xtreme recon package, or am I mistaken? Xtreme Recon is not yet showing up for 2dr Rubicons on the Build page. If wanting a rubicon 2dr v6 with automatic am I correct in saying that you could order without the Xtreme Recon package?

I wonder if the Xtreme Recon will ever become available on 2dr Rubicons.

I'm also wondering when the 4.88 gear option will become available for manual transmission Rubicons (2 or 4dr variants).
 

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2dr Rubicon don't yet have an xtreme recon package, or am I mistaken? Xtreme Recon is not yet showing up for 2dr Rubicons on the Build page. If wanting a rubicon 2dr v6 with automatic am I correct in saying that you could order without the Xtreme Recon package?

I wonder if the Xtreme Recon will ever become available on 2dr Rubicons.

I'm also wondering when the 4.88 gear option will become available for manual transmission Rubicons (2 or 4dr variants).
I don't believe the 2 door has it yet. The original PR said the 100:1 crawl ratio gearing would be "later this year" but we'll see if that holds or not. I would fully expect both options to hold off until MY22 at this point.
 
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