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Just curious to how many people take there Jeep off-road with no lift? Not talking extreme, but level 2-3 trails. I have my Rubicon with 35’s and no lift. I love going down trails and I’m not a fan of lift kits. Like the way it looks now. I do mostly rock crawling and creek driving. That’s mainly what we have here in Missouri. Nothing high speed. All 4lo, with no sway bar and lockers engaged. Let’s here it from you no lift off roading guys.





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Every trail I’ve run has been with no lift on 315/70/17s. The last trails I ran were at Stony Lonesome in Alabama. The weight of my Jeep and mods (LoD front bumper, winch, ACE sliders, Metalcloak skids, and Rhino Rack) have begun to take a toll on my clearance. I scraped a lot and rubbed my fenders often. After the trip, I decided I’m in need of a lift and a tire upgrade.

I picked up a set of Falcon 3.3s a couple weeks back and ordered 37x12.50 STT Pros today and will be ordering the Teraflex ST3 in the next week or so.

Wheeling with no lift has been fun but it’s time to grow a tad.

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285/70/17’s on a JLUR. No lift. Stock.

i take bunny slopes...(1-5)
Things like:

colorado:
Stoney Pass
buffalo boy
eureka pass
loch Lomond,
Fourth of July

no issues, nor would I expect any Given these trails.
 
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Every trail I’ve run has been with no lift on 315/70/17s. The last trails I ran were at Stony Lonesome in Alabama. The weight of my Jeep and mods (LoD front bumper, winch, ACE sliders, Metalcloak skids, and Rhino Rack) have begun to take a toll on my clearance. I scraped a lot and rubbed my fenders often. After the trip, I decided I’m in need of a lift and a tire upgrade.

I picked up a set of Falcon 3.3s a couple weeks back and ordered 37x12.50 STT Pros today and will be ordering the Teraflex ST3 in the next week or so.

Wheeling with no lift has been fun but it’s time to grow a tad.

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I’m getting ready to install Fox 2.5’s, but no lift. I think they will help in not needing a lift for quite a while. Your Jeep looks good as is. At least to me.
 

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I take my Sahara with 33-inch (275/70R18) tires and no lift on the trail all the time. It is more like level 2-6 trails around here. No issue whatsoever.

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I have a JLU sport with a rubicon takeoff suspension, JKS quick disconnects and 285 70 17. I wheel a lot of moderate to difficult trails. I also have an engine transmission skid. I do scrape and bang a bit. Jeeps are built to wheel and take a fair amount of abuse.
 

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no lift on 315/70/17s...
I scraped a lot and rubbed my fenders often
Increasing tire size with no lift reduces clearance under the fenders and increases chance of rubbing when articulating.

I've done trails in Colorado on the stock 245s, no lift. I intend to buy some Rubicon takeoff tires whenever I have an opportunity. I will also consider a small lift. I intend to make more trips to Utah than to Colorado.
 

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Increasing tire size with no lift reduces clearance under the fenders and increases chance of rubbing when articulating.

I've done trails in Colorado on the stock 245s, no lift. I intend to buy some Rubicon takeoff tires whenever I have an opportunity. I will also consider a small lift. I intend to make more trips to Utah than to Colorado.
Yep. Well aware. Before the extra weight I rarely rubbed, even fully articulated but the weight has caught up to me. I’ll remedy that soon.
 

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Just curious to how many people take there Jeep off-road with no lift? Not talking extreme, but level 2-3 trails. I have my Rubicon with 35’s and no lift. I love going down trails and I’m not a fan of lift kits. Like the way it looks now. I do mostly rock crawling and creek driving. That’s mainly what we have here in Missouri. Nothing high speed. All 4lo, with no sway bar and lockers engaged. Let’s here it from you no lift off roading guys.
It really comes down to experience. The more you have the less lift you need. I have had no issues running my stock JLUR with “35s” on any of the local SoCal “black diamond” trails some of which with well known names in the off road world. Granted I have been running these trails for decades and have long since learned all the the correct lines. I love watching some of the less experienced drivers and their rigs with huge tires and lifts struggling, then I driving up the same section of trail with a “stock” Jeep and making it look easy. Point is mechanical capability is only as good as the experience of the driver using it.

Not saying a lift is unnecessary some really need it for their driving style and the type of trail fun they enjoy. God knows I have smacked up the bottom of my 2020 JLUR in an attempt to determine what amount of lift I need. But after some lengthy hours on the trails I have determined that the stock JLUR is an exceptionally capable truck as is. So I am in no rush to add more lift to the stock Rubicons 1.25” it came with from the factory. At most I might add 1” of lift to the factory springs for a total lift of 2.25” and longer down travel shocks. This should compensate well enough for my cargo, under armor, bumper and winch weight.

Lifted Jeeps can look cool and when driven by a truly experienced driver can do some amazing things. But then a well thought out stock Rubicon with the right functional accessories is no slouch either and easier to live with as a daily driver IMO.

Note: My comment are in reference to the JL Rubicons and not non Rubicons. These do need a lift and larger tires to enhance their off road performance some.
 

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I’m running a stock JLU sport with 265/70/17 AT tires. No idea what a 2-3 trail would look like, but I’ve done Schnebly hill (BOH rated 2-6) and Senator Highway (AllTrails Moderate). Both are rated easy in my trail book. I wouldn’t take a car on either trail, but they were pretty easy in the Jeep. Both had some fun obstacles too.
I’m new to off-roading, so I’m taking it slow.
 

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Keep in mind that your Rubicon is equivalent to a fairly hardcore rig just 20 years ago. 33’s and lockers were better than 99% and if you were running 35’s you were a 1%’er.

Prior to 2003, no Jeep had lockers or tires over 30” from the factory.

When the Rubicon came out in 2003 it put a lot of built rigs to shame. Most guys back then ran a lift but no lockers. Only a small percentage were hardcore enough to spend the money that dual ARB’s cost. Then the Rubicon comes along and all of the sudden everyone has lockers....you had to....or a soccer mom in a Rubicon was going to make you look ridiculous.

I’ve owned a dozen Jeeps in my life, and when my newly ordered JL Rubicon comes in, I won’t touch a thing on it.
 

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I have a 2 door Sport S with Limited Slip Diff. Otherwise stock standard. I have been out with the Sydney Jeep Club. A few times I have said "obviouly my Jeep can't do this bit so I'll wait till you return. Obviously!".

Instead, I have been encouraged to continue over these bits, and my Jeep made it! Amazing! Wonderful!

I love my Jeep!
 

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No issues on mine at all. Still running the original KO2s despite having swapped the stock Rubicon wheels for Rugged Ridge XHD 17x9s. The wider stance added a bit of stability for my 2 door which had felt a little unpredictable at times off road. I’ve also added Fox 2.0 shocks but no lift and don’t plan on lifting in the future, aside from the gains from adding 35s when the original KO2s need replaced. Just don’t think it would feel right to go up much higher on such a short wheelbase vehicle. Besides, have short people in the family that will need running boards to get in as soon as the new tires go on.
 

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A stock JL is pretty damn good for a factory vehicle for most trails. I don’t see any “need” to lift one. With that said, doing something like the Rubicon trail at stock height won’t fun. I did it this year on a 2” mopar lift and still gave the skid plates a work out.
 

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