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Looks very "Ford-ish". One might goes as far as to say "Raptor-y"
 

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So, they gave it a spoiler? Is the bed shorter?

Will they improve seating ergonomics?

Will they actually update the drivetrain?
 

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So, they gave it a spoiler? Is the bed shorter?

Will they improve seating ergonomics?

Will they actually update the drivetrain?
Yes, it is reported to have a 2.5T or a 2.5HEV.

Since Tundra, Land Cruiser, upcoming Tacoma and 4Runner are all based on the same architecture, my guess is the ergonomics will be much improved.
 

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I like the design, but why did they do away with front bumpers and go with a car style front end?
 

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As long as they get rid of that POS trans in the 3rd gen, they’ll do alright. Mine could never make up its mind. 3-4-3-4-2-5-3-4 drove me nuts.
 

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Loved my 2021 Taco for the 7 months I owned it. Love my Jeep significantly more.

Curious to see one of these in person. My biggest problems with the Taco were the transmission (no surprise) and the crap fuel economy with stock 31’s.

My JL gets better fuel economy with 35’s than my Tacoma did and that’s just ridiculous considering the lack of aerodynamics. Normally fuel economy is not a major factor, but that’s tough to ignore.

Also hope this truck comes with at least 33’s factory for the TRD Pro. You had to chop the frame on the 3rd Gen to fit 33’s well and I also found that ridiculous.

Best part about the TRD Pro was the shocks. They were amazing off road! Super fun to drive fast through the whoops, but that’s not really my off-road driving style anymore.

If this is a big improvement in those areas, I would consider a lower trim as a daily so I can justify dumping more money into my JL.

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Yes, me too. The powertrain and the seating position SUCKED! Otherwise it was a great truck.
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I loved the suggested forum fixes.
Get the ov tune or what ever it was to reprogram the shift points or what ever it was supposed to do.
Go to Amazon and buy seat jackers to raise the seat up to make a more comfortable seating position.
Gripe 1, someone shouldn’t have to spend money to reprogram the computer on a $36k+ truck and second I’m not buying some cheap Chinese made crap to reposition the seat and compromise the safety of the vehicle.
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