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The steel bumper weighs considerably less than a full tank of gas.
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Going with 37s, you may want to reconsider the 4.88s and go with 5.13s.
 

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It's amazing to me how much weigh people add modding suspension/tires/etc. and do absolutely nothing to the engine to compensate. CAI's and exhaust do little or nothing - at least try a tune or consider supercharging to get that pep back....
 

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I bought a Sahara, and added Rubicon takeoff suspension, wheels, tires, and a new Mopar front bumper. I certainly noticed a difference from a rolling skate feel to something more beefy. However, it actually felt better to me and more planted, albeit slightly slower.

I then added side armor and a metal rear bumper, and I'd say I am done. It does feel a little heavier again, teetering on too heavy. I'm still happy with it, but I am not going to go with bigger tires, ever. I think I'll lose too much, and have to regear at that point anyway. My modding ways are done at this point, and I'm happy with the outcome anyway. It'll handle any trail I actually want to do.
Your Jeep looks great in the pictures but I'm curious, why buy a Sahara and then swap out all the parts for Rubicon parts? I'm new to this so I'm not criticizing, I just really don't understand. Wouldn't it have been cheaper and easier to just start with a Rubicon?
 
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I have a '21 JLUR with the OEM Steel bumper, a winch plus the MOPAR lift and 35's (Falken AT3W). The only main difference I can tell vs stock is that my mpg has gone down, but ride quality and performance has been great, if not better. The Falkens are really good both on and off road. I put on the mods for off-road use, but if you're not, it's probably a waste of $$$. Either way, enjoy your ride!
Good info! How much did your MPG drop? I have the 2.0T and am currently getting around 21 mpg combined.
 

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It's amazing to me how much weigh people add modding suspension/tires/etc. and do absolutely nothing to the engine to compensate. CAI's and exhaust do little or nothing - at least try a tune or consider supercharging to get that pep back....
The power in these motors is MORE than adequate even with the 37" tires.
 

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Good info! How much did your MPG drop? I have the 2.0T and am currently getting around 21 mpg combined.
Was getting around 18 mpg w/o the mods. I currently get around 16, but where I live are lots of hills and I tend to have a heavy foot on the freeway.
 

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You're Jeep looks great in the pictures but I'm curious, why buy a Sahara and then swap out all the parts for Rubicon parts? I'm new to this so I'm not criticizing, I just really don't understand. Wouldn't it have been cheaper and easier to just start with a Rubicon?
If you want to do hard core stuff, buying a Rubicon makes sense. Not everyone needs all the features that a Rubicon has, however. So they buy a Sport or Sahara and add what they need.

For example, putting Rubicon suspension components on a Sport or Sahara is very popular on this forum. If gives the vehicle a 1 1/2 to 2 inch lift for a few hundred dollars.

Plus the Sahara has some advantages over the Rubicon. For example, Select Trac makes it easier to drive through snow.

Having said that...

Some people don't have enough information about the different models to make an informed purchase. So they buy a Sport and then want to a 3 1/2 inch lift and 37's. This happens more often that you would think.

Some people start out wanting a Jeep for street use and light trails. After they start driving around they want to take on more difficult trails.

Some people can't afford anything more expensive than a basic Sport. So they start there and modify as cash flow allows.

Some people plan to change out axles, fenders, wheels, etc. to make a hard core rock climbing machine. Except for the electronic sway bar disconnect, there is no advantage in purchasing a Rubicon since everything will be going.
 

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The power in these motors is MORE than adequate even with the 37" tires.
Not even. I'm running the Livernois tune and it def makes a difference and I'm stock suspension/tires. Guess it depends on what you came from.
 

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Not even. I'm running the Livernois tune and it def makes a difference and I'm stock suspension/tires. Guess it depends on what you came from.
So true. My other car is a 2013 Shelby GT500 Convertible. Having had everything from CJ7's with a V8 304 to this I can say THIS is the most powerful Jeep I have owned for sure.
 

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Your Jeep looks great in the pictures but I'm curious, why buy a Sahara and then swap out all the parts for Rubicon parts? I'm new to this so I'm not criticizing, I just really don't understand. Wouldn't it have been cheaper and easier to just start with a Rubicon?
It's a fair question.

The main reason was that I bought it during the initial phases of the covid lockdown, so inventory was very sparse in the southeast. Nary a Rubicon to be found, but I didn't need the heavier axle and disconnects in a Rubi anyway, and I wanted more creature comforts than the sport could offer in any trim line. There's sound deadening, LED lighting, select trac, and other features on the Sahara not on the sport too.

One of the kickers was that I wanted the etorque V6, and in 2020, that was only on the Sahara. There's a nice e power assist that smooths the torque curve nicely.

Once I got it I felt like it looked like a roller skate, and I wanted a cheap beef up, so went with a set of takeoff wheels, tires, and suspension. $950 bucks all in.

Looking back, I'm not sure I'd change anything if I had to do it over again. It fits me well at this point and turned out pretty sweet.
 

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It's a fair question.

The main reason was that I bought it during the initial phases of the covid lockdown, so inventory was very sparse in the southeast. Nary a Rubicon to be found, but I didn't need the heavier axle and disconnects in a Rubi anyway, and I wanted more creature comforts than the sport could offer in any trim line. There's sound deadening, LED lighting, select trac, and other features on the Sahara not on the sport too.

One of the kickers was that I wanted the etorque V6, and in 2020, that was only on the Sahara. There's a nice e power assist that smooths the torque curve nicely.

Once I got it I felt like it looked like a roller skate, and I wanted a cheap beef up, so went with a set of takeoff wheels, tires, and suspension. $950 bucks all in.

Looking back, I'm not sure I'd change anything if I had to do it over again. It fits me well at this point and turned out pretty sweet.
Agree - Fair question. When I purchased used I couldn't find a Rubi within $15K of the Sport S I bought for same year/condition/miles. Of Course, I have put about $3,800 in additions (not counting wheels/tires) to make it it look like a Rubi with paint matched Flares, Perf Rails, Hood, Grille, Steel Bumper Group, and LED package. :LOL:

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Going with 37s, you may want to reconsider the 4.88s and go with 5.13s.
I have been considering Both. I enjoy driving at a good speed in the highway so I assumed the 4.88 were a little more aggressive with 37s than the 4.10 gears on stock tires are. Can you share some of the reasons you recommend the 5.13s? I’d like to learn more about this.
 

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Agree - Fair question. When I purchased used I couldn't find a Rubi within $15K of the Sport S I bought for same year/condition/miles. Of Course, I have put about $3,800 in additions (not counting wheels/tires) to make it it look like a Rubi with paint matched Flares, Perf Rails, Hood, Grille, Steel Bumper Group, and LED package. :LOL:

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If you drive highway a lot then the 4.88s will keep you performance close to stock. 5.13s will help more on the trail to overcome the tire diameter. If you have a 6 speed the 5.13s will also help around town or in stop and go traffic.
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