New Mopar Steel Bumper for JL / JLU Released

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Still butt ugly.
Is it still just as thin as the other JL steel bumper? If you touch that thing/rock on a tree it's getting bent...my LoD can push a tree over and not care.
Jeez guys, Benny at Mopar started this thread to inform the forum about this new product. He didn't ask you for your opinions or if you think it's ugly, thin or over-priced.

Just because you are on social media doesn't mean it's good form to regurgitate your opinions all over the place
 

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Jeez guys, Benny at Mopar started this thread to inform the forum about this new product. He didn't ask you for your opinions or if you think it's ugly, thin or over-priced.

Just because you are on social media doesn't mean it's good form to regurgitate your opinions all over the place
So I’m in the other camp - I think it looks okay maybe and haven’t used this space to spew an opinion - and I even said thank you to Benny (!).

Even so - I disagree with you. This space is exactly for that. Vendors (even the big boy Mopar) take the risk of this dialogue in hopes that they’ll win fans and land some wins...And they accept that they’ll not always get the reaction they hoped.

And as much as we like Benny, Mopar is not the little guy. I think boards like this are more forgiving of the small shops trying to bring quality to market. But boards like this also reasonably except LOTS from the OEM / Mopar in this case. They have invested heavily and chose Jeep / Mopar instead of other good options. There’s the sense that something is owed - highest quality, reliability, low margin of error. It’s kind of the price you pay by being the big boy vs the little guy. It matters that everyone in this forum has spent more than 40k with Jeep. Something is indeed owed by Mopar, and consumers have a right to voice an opinion to Mopar. To Mopar more than any other, IMHO.

Social Media is the space for spewing opinions, and it can be an ugly space indeed. But companies like mopar realize that they have to be in the space - connect with people, get real feedback, have real conversation - even when it’s a swing and a miss. They learn important things in exchange. For instance, it’s likely important for Mopar to gauge that reactions in this fan forum aren’t positive to the new bumper. The reaction might be summed as - Crush cans viewed as ugly, price viewed as too high, Jeep snobs (myself included) prefer other options. Sales of course will be a more meaningful indicator of what the masses truly think. Even so, these are probably good insights for Mopar, and in a perfect world these inputs inform how other products are brought to market.
 

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Well that's YOUR opinion...
Oh, you're a get-the-last-word-in guy :facepalm:

I'll repeat my suggestion since you may not have understood it: I suggested folks tone down trashing the Mopar product that Benny posted on the thread he started.
 

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Oh, you're a get-the-last-word-in guy :facepalm:

I'll repeat my suggestion since you may not have understood it: I suggested folks tone down trashing the Mopar product that Benny posted on the thread he started.
Understood your suggestion perfectly clear, but this never had anything to do with Benny. I'm sure he's a good dude. In fact, perhaps I'll keep him in mind when buying MOPAR products. I won't however be purchasing the new MOPAR bumper because it's expensive, but primarily because is hella fugly. But hey, that's not Benny's fault everyone, just to be perfectly clear. Benny did not design it guys, and is not responsible for pricing it. Nobody better fack with Benny guys....
Nobody...

Done with this thread.
 

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Understood your suggestion perfectly clear, but this never had anything to do with Benny. I'm sure he's a good dude. In fact, perhaps I'll keep him in mind when buying MOPAR products. I won't however be purchasing the new MOPAR bumper because it's expensive, but primarily because is hella fugly. But hey, that's not Benny's fault everyone, just to be perfectly clear. Benny did not design it guys, and is not responsible for pricing it. Nobody better fack with Benny guys....
Nobody...

Done with this thread.
Good for you - you got yet another last word in and you pretend you’re “done with this thread” while you dump on, not Benny, but the product he started this thread about.

Benny and this thread didn’t need your opinion but you shared it with us multiple times. You won the Internet today :no:
 

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Good for you - you got yet another last word in and you pretend you’re “done with this thread” while you dump on, not Benny, but the product he started this thread about.

Benny and this thread didn’t need your opinion but you shared it with us multiple times. You won the Internet today :no:
why does anyone have to “win“? If we have an opinion, we have the freedom to express it, that’s what I love about America. Even when people are stupid they can still express their opinion.

either way, the bumper is overpriced, I’m sure Benny is a great guy, Mopar typically makes Reasonably good products that are sometimes way overpriced.
 

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why does anyone have to “win“? If we have an opinion, we have the freedom to express it, that’s what I love about America. Even when people are stupid they can still express their opinion.

either way, the bumper is overpriced, I’m sure Benny is a great guy, Mopar typically makes Reasonably good products that are sometimes way overpriced.
Theoretically one can express an opinion any time about anything but if you're a respectful person you don't criticize someone's product or post or crap in their thread. It's a shame you need to have this explained to you. Do you run a business? Does your business depend on posts like Benny's does?

And Benny already said they'll discount it so you don’t know if it’s overpriced. Tell me what thread you started so I can threadcrap in it
 
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Theoretically one can express an opinion any time about anything but if you're a respectful person you don't criticize someone's product or post or crap in their thread. It's a shame you need to have this explained to you. Do you run a business? Does your business depend on posts like Benny's does?

And Benny already said they'll discount it so you don’t know if it’s overpriced. Tell me what thread you started so I can threadcrap in it
stating facts is not criticizing, I have run more than one business and we depend on honest feedback from customers. Benny does not own Mopar, so your analogy makes no sense...
 

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