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In my experience, part of the big hit from hybrids and EVs is you can't go based on the MSRP - because resale market also takes into account the rebates that were used... If you buy a $40,000 Hybrid that had a $7500 Fed and a $2500 state credit... it isn't worth $35000 when you drive it off the lot like a normal car, it is worth $25,000, but you only paid $30000.
This. Exactly this. The market prices the $7500 rebate into resale value...
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I thought the same thing at first too! Oh No Its broken!!! I never got used to it. I just push the off button automatically everytime I start it. I hate the auto shut down mode. I can probably program it to remain off somehow, but I never got around to figuring it out.
 

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How is Jeep winning all these "awards" when it was just the prototype and advertised specs? Dont the folks "reviewing" need to drive an actual production piece and test it out in the real world?
 

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How is Jeep winning all these "awards" when it was just the prototype and advertised specs? Dont the folks "reviewing" need to drive an actual production piece and test it out in the real world?
I don't know for this particular company, but it's common practice for industry journalists to get production vehicles before they arrive at the dealer for exactly this situation.
 

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How is Jeep winning all these "awards" when it was just the prototype and advertised specs? Dont the folks "reviewing" need to drive an actual production piece and test it out in the real world?
If you don't pay for a service, you're the product. These websites need clicks to make money and they'll gladly hype a model if they think that will bring clicks.

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This. Exactly this. The market prices the $7500 rebate into resale value...
You're correct, up until the point when FCA runs out of credits. Then all of the used models purchased with the $7,500 credit are suddenly competing with new prices that are $7,500 more.
 

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I thought the same thing at first too! Oh No Its broken!!! I never got used to it. I just push the off button automatically everytime I start it. I hate the auto shut down mode. I can probably program it to remain off somehow, but I never got around to figuring it out.
If you have the money to buy the Z-JLM Tazer Mini, you can program so the computer remembers your last setting so you don't have to always turn it off from the dash or start/stop $320 or there about. Good video on it on Quadratec, does a lot of cool things,
 
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