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I did my first oil change today 960 miles in my 2020 3.6l eTorque. I drained the oil overnight and came back this morning to no dripping from the oil drain. Closed it back up, changed the oil filter, put in a 5Q bottle of Pennz Ultra Platinum 0W-20. Started and ran it for about 5 minutes to check for leaks- all good. Shut down, went back an hour later to check oil level and it only reaches the bottom of the hashmarks :/. I'm tempted to put a pint or so in to get it at least half way up the hashmarks, but I'm scratching my head why this would be!

Double checked the manual in case the eTorque takes more, but no mention of it.
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I did my first oil change today 960 miles in my 2020 3.6l eTorque. I drained the oil overnight and came back this morning to no dripping from the oil drain. Closed it back up, changed the oil filter, put in a 5Q bottle of Pennz Ultra Platinum 0W-20. Started and ran it for about 5 minutes to check for leaks- all good. Shut down, went back an hour later to check oil level and it only reaches the bottom of the hashmarks :/. I'm tempted to put a pint or so in to get it at least half way up the hashmarks, but I'm scratching my head why this would be!

Double checked the manual in case the eTorque takes more, but no mention of it.
My Pentastar (JK non-eTorque) has a capacity of 6 quarts. Don't they all?

p.s. It rarely will take all 6, but it's well north of 5. And...buy a Fumoto - it will change your oil change experience dramatically.
 
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I did put the Fumoto on!

the JK takes 6q - the JL takes 5q. It’s been discussed often on here that dealers often are overfilling the JL thinking the capacity is the same.
 

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I hate to be “that guy”...... but....

are you sure that you pushed the dipstick all the way in?
 
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No offense taken :) but, yes all the way in. I drove it a bit and got the oil hot- went up half way in the hatch mark area. I think that's fine, but I'll probably put in a pint.
 

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I wouldn’t put any additional in. There’s an error somewhere here.
not much room for an error- drained, filled from a sealed bottle, analog dipstick. I’ve found that draining overnight yields a more thorough drain than one than goes for a half hour then is dripping when the plug is screwed back in.
 

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I would leave it be. The manual says 5qts, and you added 5qts.

The dipstick is very sensitive to oil temp and how long it’s been sitting (ie how much oil is sitting in the filter).
 

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I did my first oil change today 960 miles in my 2020 3.6l eTorque. I drained the oil overnight and came back this morning to no dripping from the oil drain. Closed it back up, changed the oil filter, put in a 5Q bottle of Pennz Ultra Platinum 0W-20. Started and ran it for about 5 minutes to check for leaks- all good. Shut down, went back an hour later to check oil level and it only reaches the bottom of the hashmarks :/. I'm tempted to put a pint or so in to get it at least half way up the hashmarks, but I'm scratching my head why this would be!

Double checked the manual in case the eTorque takes more, but no mention of it.
So I had this same issue and spoke with my trusted Jeep service manager, and he said in reality its about 5.5 quarts of oil required for the JL to be Full, that's what he's been doing in my 3.6 JL since 2018 and I have 23k miles and no issues.
 

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Quick update here- after driving it to work and back (about 15 miles total), checking the level shows top of the hash marks now, whether cold or hot. So, 5 quarts it is for me after all :)
 

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Hey @mreloc does your engine look like this one?

2020 Pentastar V6 engine difference.png


I saw a video this morning that did not mention "eTorque", but I cannot identify this part vs where the alternator is on the the 2018/2019 Pentastar...

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Well, I found my own answer... Yes, this engine has a BSG, so the alternator would be different...

2020 Pentastar 48v BSG.png
 
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I did my first oil change today 960 miles in my 2020 3.6l eTorque. I drained the oil overnight and came back this morning to no dripping from the oil drain. Closed it back up, changed the oil filter, put in a 5Q bottle of Pennz Ultra Platinum 0W-20. Started and ran it for about 5 minutes to check for leaks- all good. Shut down, went back an hour later to check oil level and it only reaches the bottom of the hashmarks :/. I'm tempted to put a pint or so in to get it at least half way up the hashmarks, but I'm scratching my head why this would be!

Double checked the manual in case the eTorque takes more, but no mention of it.
Did you ever findout which it should be? My 2018 3.6L JL took 5 qts, dealer always put in 5 qts, and the dipstick showed filled at 5 qts. I now have a 2021 eTorque. Dealer put in 6 qts, doing an oil change at home I only put in 5 qts and the dipstick reads low. Does the eTorque 3.6L take more oil than the non-eTorque JL 3.6L or have they messed up the dipstick in the newer models?
 

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Read the dipstick with the engine fully warmed up and then switched OFF for 5 minutes, on perfectly level ground. The 3.6 dipstick can read high or low depending on if you check it while it hot/cold/sitting for some minutes/while running. It's picky. I don't know if the oil pan is different on eTorque models but I highly doubt it - mine is a regular 3.6.

That being said, I find I'm usually adding 1/3 to 1/2 a quart over 5Q when I change my oil.
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