Most articulation stock geometry

[Old Jeeper]

The bigger the tire you have the less flex you will get. The bigger the tire the higher the lift you will need to maintain max flex.

I love it when someone actually know the answer, YEP X 2 for sure.

37/38 Is the optimal tire size and a 3-3.5 lift works best.

Over the years I spent a lot of time in Moab and the guys that run the 39s up struggle on the trails. WHY? Big Meats Big Lifts. Combine a set of 4X + a 6-8 in lift and WHAT articulation? To make it worse the 6-8 lift only aids your off-road enemy...CoG, Center of Gravity.

There are things you can do: Not sure about the JL, but on a TJ you can do a 2-inch body lift. then get a FLAT as your first girlfriend without her bra, skid plate, which offers up about 2 inches, then do a 2-inch motor mount lift and now you straighten out your drive line so the days of breaking u-joints are behind you. You have the equivalent of a 6+ in lift, but only sitting 3 - 3.5 inches higher...that is how I engineer them...

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[GATORB8]

Great info. Are you guys wheeling hard on 37/38 with stock axles? I’m east coast so not a ton of traction.

Not sure I can squeeze 38’s and 3.5 into my garage. Any idea on overall height with a hard top?

The M210/220 combo is a pretty decent set, but you can break anything. They'll be reliable if you are reasonable with them. If you tend to respond to drunk spotters yelling send it, you'd be better off upgrading.

 

[4x4Funlover]

Great info. Are you guys wheeling hard on 37/38 with stock axles? I’m east coast so not a ton of traction.

Not sure I can squeeze 38’s and 3.5 into my garage. Any idea on overall height with a hard top?

I try to stick to the tread lightly mentality, even if I was on tons; it would be as slow as possible, no faster then necessary. that being said I have, been wheeling my jeep for years on 37/38's with zero issues. I stick to blue/black trails; its still my DD.

I have not tried to get it in the garage since the 38's still full of stuff from when the GF moved in. it fit with 37's barely. Every lift is going to be a little different on what you end up with for a final height and what it looks like after it settles.

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