Loose steering feels like it has play and drifts

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My 2020 Rubicon is the exact opposite of this. Below 70 or so there is 3/4- 1 inch dead zone in the center, above 70 it steers like a go cart, tight and very responsive.
I have read all 6000+ posts in this thread and this is a first... only FCA could design such a system.





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Just curious, has anyone installed the synergy sector shaft brace and experienced no improvement in looseness or dead spot?
 

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I haven‘t posted in this thread in a while. I am loving my replacement ‘20 Recon.

Hubby and I were curious as to the caster because it feels the slightest bit like there’s a bit of flightines (my husband notices it more than I do). I thought it was interesting that the caster on my ‘20 is exactly the same as it was on my ‘19—4.7*. Also interesting is that the toe on the ‘20 was way off, just like it was in my ‘19. Toe was -.03 and .35. WTH, FCA?!

My ‘20 drives straight and has very little play—what I’d expect from a Jeep. I don’t notice it when driving. It also returns to center much better than my ‘19.

I had purchased some adjustable LCAs for my ‘19, just in case I lost arbitration. We’re going to put them on my Jeep. I also still have the Yeti track bar and Falcon 2.2 stabilizer that well put on eventually.

The alignment specs on the two Jeeps were the same yet the ‘20 steers so much better. Hmmmm
 

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Adjusting the steering box has been mentioned several times since back in 2018 and 2019, and even before on JKs. Some stated they were successful but didn’t follow up if it was a successful long term fix or if it made things worse later on. The steering Star case mentions that it is not adjustable, I think because once the Loctite thread locker is broken, it can’t be reapplied since the threads are inside the steering box. The steering pump is supposed to take up the slack so there shouldn’t be a need to adjust the steering box. If there is eventually a software update that makes the steering pump stronger, and the steering box was adjusted to be tighter, then steering could lock up.

June 2018 reference example to adjusting the steering box

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...-like-it-has-play-and-drifts.3691/post-235040
 
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Just curious, has anyone installed the synergy sector shaft brace and experienced no improvement in looseness or dead spot?
Seems like I saw a post or two with no difference or weren't sure.
 

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Adjusting the steering box has been mentioned several times since back in 2018 and 2019, and even before on JKs. Some stated they were successful but didn’t follow up if it was a successful long term fix or if it made things worse later on...
there have been some reports that it loosened back up relatively quickly, but I drove on an AD box with 1/4 turn adjustment for a year without noticing any change. and here is an 8 month success story (there are many more):
https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...like-it-has-play-and-drifts.3691/post-1149544
 

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So there are 411 pages/6181 posts on this steering problem on JL's on this forum alone. Surely FCA is following all this.

Yet FCA -- Jeep hasn't presented a solution. Blows my mind. Our Jeep dealer's doors are shut. I'm concerned.
 

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Adjusting the steering box has been mentioned several times since back in 2018 and 2019, and even before on JKs. Some stated they were successful but didn’t follow up if it was a successful long term fix or if it made things worse later on. The steering Star case mentions that it is not adjustable, I think because once the Loctite thread locker is broken, it can’t be reapplied since the threads are inside the steering box. The steering pump is supposed to take up the slack so there shouldn’t be a need to adjust the steering box. If there is eventually a software update that makes the steering pump stronger, and the steering box was adjusted to be tighter, then steering could lock up.

June 2018 reference example to adjusting the steering box

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...-like-it-has-play-and-drifts.3691/post-235040
Thanks. That makes sense. I've looked at the steering box; haven't adjusted a thing.
 

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Thanks. That makes sense. I've looked at the steering box; haven't adjusted a thing.
FYI - I notice the linked post doesn't mention that red loctite is usually applied to the threads of the locknut at the factory. you need to heat the locknut with a microbutane torch (or other heat source) for 45-60 seconds before trying to turn the adjuster or you risk stripping the adjuster head.
 

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FYI - I notice the linked post doesn't mention that red loctite is usually applied to the threads of the locknut at the factory. you need to heat the locknut with a microbutane torch (or other heat source) for 45-60 seconds before trying to turn the adjuster or you risk stripping the adjuster head.
In this day and age I've decided not to touch my steering box; I appreciate your information. Back about 1972 I adjusted steering boxes on volvos I had. It was easy. Do it slowly (minor adjustments) no problem. It took up the steering slack in my Volvos.

Good post. Thanks
 
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In this day and age I've decided not to touch my steering box; I appreciate your information. Back about 1972 I adjusted steering boxes on volvos I had. It was easy. Do it slowly (minor adjustments) nob problem. It took up the steering slack in my Volvos.

Good post. Thanks
What? A vehicle other than Jeep had steering issues?
 

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What? A vehicle other than Jeep had steering issues?
"It's a VOLVO thing!" ;)

(Our Jeep dealer said, "It's a JEEP thing....." )
 
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