Looks Like Ford Bronco is Serious About Taking on the Wrangler

Will you consider the new Bronco?


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90 seconds in and they’ve already got 2 things wrong. Debut is the 13th not the 9th, and the Bronco has not been delayed since the official reveal in 2017. The only delay was 6 months back in 2015 or 2016 before it was announced to return.
 

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Let's all be honest here, looks is far more important than actual capabilities. We bought our JLs, not because we NEED to get to a particular location, but because they look frickin awesome. The capability was just icing on the cake
Not sure if this was in jest, but you have this completely backwards my friend. The first reason I bought my Jeep is because capability, second being looks. Even so, if there was something that was slightly less capable but looked cooler? I'd still go with the Jeep. Function over form almost every time for me. That said, I do think the JL is a sharp looking 4x4, as is the Bronco models we've seen. THIS is more the icing on the cake.

IFS sucks why? Because it's used on the most capable military utility vehicle ever made? Because it doesn't suffer from death wobble? Because it can actually be aligned in 3 planes instead of 1?
I'm going to be that guy and call you on a technicality: YES, IFS CAN suffer from Death Wobble- as can Any vehicle with incorrect steering and suspension geometry.

Again it doesnt matter whether or not they wheel the rig hard core, it's the fact that the rig is capable of doing it. Again, same for sports cars, how many do what they are capable of?

If they are putting the bronco up against the jeep they are marketing to the ill informed (unless they have invented workable IFS), but sooner or later they learn....some of them. lol

If they are smart they will market it as a go fast baja rig that will do some wheeling. Looking at their ad it appears that is what they are doing. Doubt we will see any bronco's on the Rubicon but it would be fun to watch.

I predict bronco's will segregate themselves from jeeps just as other ifs rigs do as to not be embarrassed. :)
This happened to the FJC. Took the piss right out of Toyota after getting embarrassed on the trail by the Rubicon. I swear after the initial round where Rubicon beat it handily on the trail, mags and other places started testing it against Grand Cherokees and less equipped Wranglers. I still remember this one anti- Jeep guy on another forum (I think he was a Toyota or Rover Fanboy) posting one such review, and then freaking out when a bunch of people pointed out they were testing the top trim FJC against a lower model Wrangler and the FJC only won out on it's road manners and the amount of gadgetry inside.

This Bronco mule just spotted looks like it'll be the Rubicon fighter... K02's, rock rails, etc.

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/thre...earing-bfg-k02-tires-and-mad-max-bumper.1500/
Largely meaningless stick ons. I'll believe it when I see some actual off road test footage.

I like Bronco. I want it to do well. I think all the test models we've seen look really cool, but until I see some actual real world test footage, that's all it does: look cool. It'll probably stick around for a while until gas gets expensive again and sales dip- then it will risk getting discontinued just like the FJC.. that is, unless Ford ditches the Exploder first and makes Bronco it's premiere SUV again, thus correcting their mistake from 1996.
 

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Not sure if this was in jest, but you have this completely backwards my friend. The first reason I bought my Jeep is because capability, second being looks. Even so, if there was something that was slightly less capable but looked cooler? I'd still go with the Jeep. Function over form almost every time for me. That said, I do think the JL is a sharp looking 4x4, as is the Bronco models we've seen. THIS is more the icing on the cake.


I'm going to be that guy and call you on a technicality: YES, IFS CAN suffer from Death Wobble- as can Any vehicle with incorrect steering and suspension geometry.


This happened to the FJC. Took the piss right out of Toyota after getting embarrassed on the trail by the Rubicon. I swear after the initial round where Rubicon beat it handily on the trail, mags and other places started testing it against Grand Cherokees and less equipped Wranglers. I still remember this one anti- Jeep guy on another forum (I think he was a Toyota or Rover Fanboy) posting one such review, and then freaking out when a bunch of people pointed out they were testing the top trim FJC against a lower model Wrangler and the FJC only won out on it's road manners and the amount of gadgetry inside.


Largely meaningless stick ons. I'll believe it when I see some actual off road test footage.

I like Bronco. I want it to do well. I think all the test models we've seen look really cool, but until I see some actual real world test footage, that's all it does: look cool. It'll probably stick around for a while until gas gets expensive again and sales dip- then it will risk getting discontinued just like the FJC.. that is, unless Ford ditches the Exploder first and makes Bronco it's premiere SUV again, thus correcting their mistake from 1996.
They just remade the explorer where it's an actual SUV again and not a crossover. I highly doubt the explorer gets ditched.
 

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They just remade the explorer where it's an actual SUV again and not a crossover. I highly doubt the explorer gets ditched.
I know. That was more my editorial on how salty I am. That's when most of the 4x4's died off and become crossovers, if not a shell of their predecessors. Basically Minivans on Steroids. It was a sad time.
 

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So I just recently went back to my 3.5 ecoboost Flex and sheesh that torque is addicting. 10 second 0-100 opposed to 10 second 0-60 on my JL.
I really look forward to that ecboost torque in the Bronco, even if it isn't the 3.5
I think the bronco will have a nice engine. It'll have to.
 

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I bet they use the 2.7 v6 ecoboost. If they do... that'll be a hp monster for the size of the bronco.
If they do the 5.0L Coyote... my wrangler will be gone...
 

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I bet they use the 2.7 v6 ecoboost. If they do... that'll be a hp monster for the size of the bronco.
If they do the 5.0L Coyote... my wrangler will be gone...
The 2.3 will be standard. The big question is whether they will offer the 2.7 at launch. I doubt they will offer anything bigger than that at launch but they may offer the 3.0 at some point in the future on the Raptor-like trim.

I doubt they will do anything bigger than that.
 

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For those unfamiliar with the 2.7 EB-
A coworker bought a new F150 4x4 with the 2.7. He added a mild tune and has a gauge display. Stock tune 0-60 was 5.7 seconds. With his mild tune it sees mid 4’s on a 4x4 launch. And it spins front and rear. He says even stock the low end torque is immediate. His best highway mpg is 26 tuned. I hope it gets between the fenders of the Bronco as it’s proven a reliable engine from everything I’ve read on the F150 forums and several friends that own them. The 3.6 is no slouch with the 8 speed. It just needs to rev- esp with 315’s. Waiting on the Bronco reveal to form my true opinion like many of you.
 

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So I just recently went back to my 3.5 ecoboost Flex and sheesh that torque is addicting. 10 second 0-100 opposed to 10 second 0-60 on my JL.
I really look forward to that ecboost torque in the Bronco, even if it isn't the 3.5
Yep, I have same take on it. Love torque of 3.5TT - more torque at 3k rpms then Chevy 6.2L. With 93 tune it really rips, e50 tune -lost of traction, AWD.

Ford will go with 2.7L for fuel economy and size/fit. It is iron block and can take lots more boost then 3.5L
If they use same turbos and dual fuling system as they do with trucks, then that engine will run 450whp, 550 tq to the wheels with e50 tune and exhaust.
 

                           
























































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