Looks Like Ford Bronco is Serious About Taking on the Wrangler

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Not sure why several people keep trying to make the case that IFS isn’t as bad as others are saying it is.

It just comes down to usecase. If the intended use is rock crawling, then yes, IFS is ‘that bad’. If the intended use is anything else, then IFS is fine and usually better.
I think the point that we are making is that IFS will get you 99% of the places that a typical off roader is willing to drive his 50k rig.
Of course it is not as good for rock crawling and there is nothing you can do which will make it better. But.... as you say for everything else it's fine and often even better.
The annoying thing about the Wrangler though is that usually a solid axle rig has the major advantage of a huge payload capacity, but the Wrangler's payload is shit. I actually cannot even figure out how they managed to make a rig with such a small payload limit.

Don't get me wrong. I love my wrangler and I'd only trade it for a 79 series land cruiser. Which I can't get here.

Solid axles also have the clear advantage of being MUCH MUCH MUCH easier and cheaper to modify.





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I'm arguing just for the fun of it. I totally intend to have BOTH horses in this race! :LOL:
 

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Why do people keep getting angry at features making it from one vehicle to the next?? Jeep isn't the only one with aux switches. Jeep isn't the only one with a disconnectable sway bar. The hardtop panels, how else do you expect them to latch it? There are only so many ways to do things properly. Shut up with this "OMG THEY COPIED JEEP" BS. It's tired and idiotic. What's next? OMG IT HAS A SPARE ON THE BACK AND 4 WHEELS THEY COPIED JEEP!
It's the same people that say OOh Samsung galaxy copied apple iphone !!! :swear:
 

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He tested a Gladiator Rubicon with the sway bar disconnected as well. But RTI numbers don't tell the whole story, and are very dependent on the wheelbase. A Gladiator Rubicon will score lower than a Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon, which will score worse than a Wrangler Rubicon. Yet there are obstacles that some wheelbase vehicles handle better than others. The only real comparison is to take them out on the trail. Now after driving a 100 series Landy over in Europe I will tell you that they are very impressive. And if I could get one with the Diesel and manual transmission, it would be our second vehicle.
 

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Remove two bolts on the Mojave to disconnect the sway bar. It just doesn’t have the push button disconnect. Anyone going rock crawling will disconnect it either by push button or removing those 2 bolts. Otherwise flex is severely limited and it is intended to be for on road use.
Not to veer off-topic but this is a big pet peeve of mine. People who think you need a Rubi to disconnect a sway bar. I can do it in 5 minutes on my Sport and it is stock - no quick disconnects. The electronic disconnect, while convenient, to me is probably the least interesting feature of the Rubicon.
 

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Not to veer off-topic but this is a big pet peeve of mine. People who think you need a Rubi to disconnect a sway bar. I can do it in 5 minutes on my Sport and it is stock - no quick disconnects. The electronic disconnect, while convenient, to me is probably the least interesting feature of the Rubicon.
Yep. I have a friend that off-roads with me regularly that has a sport. We take the couple minutes and take out those two bolts every time he comes. He doesn’t even bother to bring his own tools, but he bums tools off the rest of us and gets it done pretty quick. Tires are airing down at that point anyway.
 

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Anybody watching this tonight, should be the way the Bronco is introduced 7/13?
Yes. I'm watching. This is where all Ford's profit is. Always interested in what they bring to the new models.
 

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I think the point that we are making is that IFS will get you 99% of the places that a typical off roader is willing to drive his 50k rig.
Of course it is not as good for rock crawling and there is nothing you can do which will make it better. But.... as you say for everything else it's fine and often even better.
The annoying thing about the Wrangler though is that usually a solid axle rig has the major advantage of a huge payload capacity, but the Wrangler's payload is shit. I actually cannot even figure out how they managed to make a rig with such a small payload limit.

Don't get me wrong. I love my wrangler and I'd only trade it for a 79 series land cruiser. Which I can't get here.

Solid axles also have the clear advantage of being MUCH MUCH MUCH easier and cheaper to modify.
I think the point is ifs will get YOU 99% of the places YOU want to go. Nothing wrong with wheeling lightweight trails. Others either do harder trails and others want a rig that will do them but wont do them.

The bronco is a baja rig and likely highly capable there and has SOME technical trail capability. Fire roads will be it's home, and that is pretty fun too. My sweetly set up suspended JL is a hoot on fire roads but likley the baja bronco will clean my clock.
 

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Yes. I'm watching. This is where all Ford's profit is. Always interested in what they bring to the new models.
Sure is. After owning my first f150 I now know what all the fuss is about. Mine is an old 2009 SCREW but I love that dang thing.
 

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Sure is. After owning my first f150 I now know what all the fuss is about. Mine is an old 2009 SCREW but I love that dang thing.
Well honestly they didn't show much for the average truck buyer. Just bells and whistles.
 

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