Looks Like Ford Bronco is Serious About Taking on the Wrangler

Will you consider the new Bronco?


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I'd say the ranger is literally nothing like a CRV in terms of what it can do.
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At only 27 seconds in you see the disadvantages of this suspension. The front passenger, or driver as it looks to be in Australia, comes to a small rock. This lifts the other front tire and he has to bump it hard and choose a slightly different line. The rest of the video is more of the same. Yes, it made it through, but this was a very easy trail that should not be that hard at all.





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Well of course it's not as capable as a solid axle. That's why we have Jeeps. Although, to be honest, if the sold the 78 series here, there I doubt there is even a parallel universe where I would not buy the 78 series.
The point is, that wildtrak wrangler will take you anywhere that 95% of wrangler owners realistically take their Jeeps.
The guys on this forum are a niche market. Most people just don't wheel "that" extreme. An IFS setup will do totally fine for that. If it has front and rear lockers, well... all the better.
Plus, you cannot deny that it will be order of magnitude more comfy.
From the photos.. it looks pretty damn cool.
Me... I am still holding out for a non-removable roof wrangler which is better suited to overlanding.
 

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I'd say the ranger is literally nothing like a CRV in terms of what it can do.
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I really like Rangers. My first truck was a Ranger 4x4 that I eventually shoe-horned a 5.0 V8 into. However if we're being honest, a stock Rubicon would have walked right up that and probably not even spun a tire.
 

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That’s a broad generalization.

Jeep styling is more iconic and functional than attractive. Wrangler looks are an acquired taste IMO. Just like beer, blue cheese, or anchovies...
Or beer WITH your blue cheese and anchovies
 

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I find it ironically funny reading all the posts about IFS vs solid axle, because I keep thinking about the Mustang and how it was the exact opposite. For years (ok, decades) Ford pushed the Mustang chassis with a solid rear axle and tried competing against cars with independent rear suspension. Even the Camaro ditched the solid axle years ago. Ford's own SVT group released an IRS setup for the Mustang in mid 2000's, but was too cost prohibitive to continue. Now, finally, we see the Mustang lose the solid axle setup. So I wonder how long before SVT gets their hands on the Bronco and releases a solid axle for it? Lol

Honestly, I'd have to agree with others in saying that Ford knows the audience they are marketing toward. They are not targeting the 10%* hardcore base; they are after the 90%* who will drive on pavement and light trails. They need this to sell well if upper management is to continue production of a vehicle that has this much hype behind it. So if it sells well to the 90% of their target audience, then they should get the green light to push the envelope on improving their model lineup for the 10% hardcore audience. I'm just as curious as everyone else to see what that brings.

* I just made these percentage figures up for sake of argument. No real research went into this.
Again it doesnt matter whether or not they wheel the rig hard core, it's the fact that the rig is capable of doing it. Again, same for sports cars, how many do what they are capable of?

If they are putting the bronco up against the jeep they are marketing to the ill informed (unless they have invented workable IFS), but sooner or later they learn....some of them. lol

If they are smart they will market it as a go fast baja rig that will do some wheeling. Looking at their ad it appears that is what they are doing. Doubt we will see any bronco's on the Rubicon but it would be fun to watch.

I predict bronco's will segregate themselves from jeeps just as other ifs rigs do as to not be embarrassed. :)

I also predict solid axle kits for the new bronco. Now THAT would make for an awesome rig!!
 

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Now I am sure there will be some who are somewhat butthurt regarding this fellows testing method, but it looks to me like the IFS setup is not "quite" as inferior as some would have you believe. I'd still have the Jeep though.
 

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Now I am sure there will be some who are somewhat butthurt regarding this fellows testing method, but it looks to me like the IFS setup is not "quite" as inferior as some would have you believe.
Mojave doesn't have sway bar disconnect. Try it again with Rubicon
 

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Now I am sure there will be some who are somewhat butthurt regarding this fellows testing method, but it looks to me like the IFS setup is not "quite" as inferior as some would have you believe.
Disconnect the sway bar on the gladiator. (Even if it has to be done manually)
 

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Not sure why several people keep trying to make the case that IFS isn’t as bad as others are saying it is.

It just comes down to usecase. If the intended use is rock crawling, then yes, IFS is ‘that bad’. If the intended use is anything else, then IFS is fine and usually better.
 

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Mojave doesn't have sway bar disconnect. Try it again with Rubicon
So.. the answer is to try it again with a truck full kitted out for hard core off road use, vs a stock IFS setup?
He actually does the test with a rubicon as well. Obviously it does better than the IFS, but not by as much as I would have though.
 

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So.. the answer is to try it again with a truck full kitted out for hard core off road use, vs a stock IFS setup?
He actually does the test with a rubicon as well. Obviously it does better than the IFS, but not by as much as I would have though.
Remove two bolts on the Mojave to disconnect the sway bar. It just doesn’t have the push button disconnect. Anyone going rock crawling will disconnect it either by push button or removing those 2 bolts. Otherwise flex is severely limited and it is intended to be for on road use.
 

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