Longer thread wheel studs vs spacers?

[ragnarlex]

Hi guys, new-ish Jeep owner here

So I got some Black Rhino wheels paired with some Atturo 35s for my 2020 JL. No rubbing without a lift and seemed like the switch worked like a charm.
Long story short, ran into some pretty bad lug nut issues where it looked like the aftermarket lug nuts were long and strong enough to hold up the new tires. They weren’t and one of the back studs even broke. So Jeep is now in the shop and I am faced with the choice of finding new longer studs and lug nuts vs maybe putting in spacers.
Anyone have any recommendations for what kind of studs I would have to get to hold up 35s? Or should I just keep the stock studs and throw in some spacers? Problem is the tires were already kind of wide enough on the Jeep so I’m not too keen on making them look even wider on the body with the spacers, if that makes sense.
Thanks for any tips.

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[BAKNBLK]

You sure the studs were not over torqued?

 

[hoag4147]

You sure the studs were not over torqued?

^^^ this. Also, are the wheels hub centric to match Jeep?

 

[XJfanatic]

Only time I have had or seen lugs just snap it was a torque issue. This is why I only ever use hand tools when putting tires on.

 

[Chocolate Thunder]

You only need spacers if you want to push the wheels outward because of insufficient clearance from suspension parts. You don’t need longer studs either. However, since one of them broke, I’d consider replacing all 20 of them with new studs. It’s possible that they’ve been seriously over torqued as mentioned, or possibly the wrong type of lug nuts were used.

 

[four low]

The torquing and hub - centric possibilities ; look at the base of the studs, all of them show wear on the threads,that would likely indicate movement of the rim, and stretching from over - torquing to compensate. "Hub- centric" means that center hub is meant to do just that, center the wheel so it can't move under acceleration and braking.

 

[ragnarlex]

Thanks everyone for the replies
I'm gonna replace the studs on the front and back of the Jeep and get the correct lug nuts for the rims that I bought. Hopefully that will take care of the issue. I know the rims are the correct ones for the Jeep since I bought from extreme terrain and the fitment was confirmed by them.

 

[hoag4147]

Thanks everyone for the replies
I'm gonna replace the studs on the front and back of the Jeep and get the correct lug nuts for the rims that I bought. Hopefully that will take care of the issue. I know the rims are the correct ones for the Jeep since I bought from extreme terrain and the fitment was confirmed by them.

Great. Just make sure on hub. Sometimes universal fit wheels come with hub centric rings. You may be missing them. Just a suggestion

 

[jludave]

Great. Just make sure on hub. Sometimes universal fit wheels come with hub centric rings. You may be missing them. Just a suggestion

^^^This!!!!

If you don’t have hub centric wheels and don’t use centering rings, you will wind up with the same stud issues again.

 

[mwilk012]

That looks like a wheel that was left loose, not over tightened.

 

[ragnarlex]

^^^This!!!!

If you don’t have hub centric wheels and don’t use centering rings, you will wind up with the same stud issues again.

If I do need hub centering rings, how would I know what type or size I need?

for reference these are the rims I got:
https://www.extremeterrain.com/blac...-matte-black-wheel-18x9-1890gla-25127m78.html

 

[hoag4147]

If I do need hub centering rings, how would I know what type or size I need?

for reference these are the rims I got:
https://www.extremeterrain.com/blac...-matte-black-wheel-18x9-1890gla-25127m78.html

They should have come with wheels from Extreme. It looks like they are 78.10 wheel and JLU is 71.5. If I am reading this correctly.

 

[ragnarlex]

They should have come with wheels from Extreme. It looks like they are 78.10 wheel and JLU is 71.5. If I am reading this correctly.

Thank you so much man. I wish I had known this sooner. I found the right centering rings thanks to your post. Unfortunately Extreme Terrain didn’t include the rings with the tires and wheels and I’m disappointed in them and myself for not checking sooner.

 

[BAKNBLK]

^^^This!!!!

If you don’t have hub centric wheels and don’t use centering rings, you will wind up with the same stud issues again.

Sorry that's not true.. been putting on wheels and tires on almost every king of vehicle for over 50 years its got no bearing on studs breaking.

 

[jludave]

Sorry that's not true.. been putting on wheels and tires on almost every king of vehicle for over 50 years its got no bearing on studs breaking.

If you say so.

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