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This is probably the most unique 4xe mod that you have ever seen, or HEARD, that is.

Now you may be saying since it’s a 4xe, it doesn’t make sound, right? Well let me introduce you to the ACTIVE EXHAUST SOUND SYSTEM.

First, background: I had a V8 Titan and loved the power and sound from it. Would’ve gone to a 392 if the price difference wasn’t another $50K or even the Diesel if I wasn’t forced to have the red trim.

So obviously getting a 4xe meant I get all the good stuff, but no “sound”. I posted a thread about my initial research on sound systems HERE and HERE and while people pretty much thought I was crazy, another poster later on did create a thread HERE about wanting a sound mod, so I know that I’m not that crazy!

In full disclosure, I will admit that I wasn’t fully committed to 4xe at first, as noted by my Diesel interest HERE and 392 interest HERE (both mainly because I get Power AND Sound). I almost went with the Diesel when I found out I could eliminate the red interior by adjusting settings to a unique build (HERE). But, after getting most of what I want in a new Jeep with the 4xe, it was only the sound that was missing. I even thought about getting a regular exhaust for the 4xe HERE so I can get sound in gas mode, but still wouldn’t get the engine start up sound. Plus would really have to drive it in Manual mode to enjoy the sound and that will kill my MPG.

I started researching ways to get sound from the engine, but really gained traction searching YouTube for “EV Exhaust Sound”. I found many Tesla owners who added a sound system that’s tied into their internal system to get that exhaust sound. It may sound stupid at first, but these are systems connected into your CAN-BUS so the sounds are tied to RPMs and are real sounds.

I found three main distributors (Thor tuning, Milltek, and Kufatec). After speaking and researching them, they all seemed the same. In fact, I think there is just one manufacturer and these are just different distributors, because the devices look exactly the same, price is the same, and all are controlled the same way. Went with Thor because their rep was always available and answered every question I had, promptly. So nothing against Milltek or Kufatec, but it just seems Thors reps are more engaged. However, I don’t think the quality of the devices makes a difference from who it’s coming from. I think they are all the same.

After committing to buying the system ($1000 for one, or $1500 for two), I then had to find anyone who would install this. As you can imagine, everyone I talked to was like, WTF are you talking about. Never mind the fact that we’re talking about a 4xe that hardly anyone has worked on, but now we’re talking about a sound system that is so niche (EV) that no 4x4 store was comfortable with. And of the ones that were willing to try to take a stab at it, were charging 10+ hours for install since it was brand new to them, even though the manufacturer says its no more than 3-4 hours. So I had to expand my search outside of where I live and found a couple places about an hour from me. Ultimately settled on MT Auto in downtown LA, because they are a shop that actually installed a Milltek one on a BMW/Tesla a few years ago, so they had an idea of what I was talking about.

There was a bit of drama during install as Thor made it seem like all we had to do was install it without help, but in reality, they needed to connect to the software DURING install to get the right settings. Mainly because I’m the first Jeep 4xe to use this so they needed the logs to review so they could code it. So while I had to go through this, others with the 4xe won’t because now Thor has the event logs. Considering Thor is based in Russia, coordinating with the 10 hour time difference was a pain. Nonetheless we got all that sorted out. Shout out to the great team at MT Auto for their flexibility and accommodating for me.

Install took about 3 hours and no major modifications needed. They did have to weld a piece to the muffler to hold the device but that was really it. Mainly because there is no space under the 4xe due to all the components. In a regular car, there would be more space so it’s more attaching a big U bolt through and sits next to another part without affecting it. After that, you connect wiring to the CAN-BUS to tie the sound to the RPM. When you hit start (even in electric) it will make a real engine start up sound, and then as the RPMs go up, the sound gets louder. The design/shape of the device allows for authentic exhaust sound. You can select sport cars, muscle cars, among others. And all controlled/adjusted via an app. You can adjust settings like sound, City/Sport, Idle sound, number of chambers, etc. So you can really customize it to your preferred sound.

Here are the videos of some of the options



Driving in Corvette mode. You can hear me drive, then lay off the pedal for bit then step on it again. Whole time was in electric mode





4xe in idle (MB G Wagon 4x4)





4xe in idle (Corvette)





Here are some pics of the Thor ECU unit, and Sound Device
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If are you interested in hearing more sounds, you can download the Thor tuning app from your app store and run it in demo mode and it will play all the different types of vehicles on your phone. Or if you want me to post a video of mine with all the sounds (as well as changing any of the settings i.e. more backfire, less drone, etc.) I can do that.

I know many of you are seeing this kind of a mod for the first time and think it’s like sticking a Topps card on your bike as a kid. I thought the same when I first came across it. And I’m not sure if the videos do it justice, but this is a bad ass mod that I love, and makes the 4xe have everything I could possibly want in my new Jeep. Not to mention the obvious sound, but also the way the device is built, you actually can feel the vibrations when the sound is loud, like a true exhaust.

This is now a beast that is FUN to drive!

What do you guys think?
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Thanks man. Yeah the 392 is nice but that price is not. What I really like about this is that I get the sound of the 392 but the MPG of the 4xe. Would probably be filling up the tank weekly on a 392.
Filled up June 29th and July 4th. Right on the money.
 

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Find a way to tweak this mod... instead of fake exhaust noise make it applicable to the pedestrian warning noise so that we can update and change that sound on demand and i think you've got a winner!
 

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Can you change the exhaust note on the fly, or does it take connecting a computer to make changes? Would be great to be able to play around with different engine sounds. Make it sound like an Indy car and freak people out.
 

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Can you change the exhaust note on the fly, or does it take connecting a computer to make changes? Would be great to be able to play around with different engine sounds. Make it sound like an Indy car and freak people out.
Most definitely on the fly. The app is connected to the unit via bluetooth. So you can change the sound even when driving. The picture I show in the OP is during initial setup, of which future owners wouldn't have to do with the Thor device since mines was the first 4xe they ever worked with. So they needed extra logs and such.

But as operating on an every day basis, you would use your phone app and change it as you see fit. Not to mention that you can change the settings of each sound type. Here are some pics of the app and options:
Jeep Wrangler JL LJ’s 4xe …with ACTIVE EXHAUST SOUND SYSTEM Screenshot_20210706-140410_Thor
Jeep Wrangler JL LJ’s 4xe …with ACTIVE EXHAUST SOUND SYSTEM Screenshot_20210706-140424_Thor
Jeep Wrangler JL LJ’s 4xe …with ACTIVE EXHAUST SOUND SYSTEM Screenshot_20210706-140502_Thor




And yes, that is an option for a Jet Fighter so it sounds like a Jet when driving by and when you step on the gas it's like a Jet accelerating
 
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Find a way to tweak this mod... instead of fake exhaust noise make it applicable to the pedestrian warning noise so that we can update and change that sound on demand and i think you've got a winner!
You know, that isn't as crazy as it sounds. The Thor guys have been pretty engaged and have had me download various logs to meet my various requests (mainly on ignition sounds) and I think it might be possible to download the logs around the pedestrian warning system and null that out. I'll ask and see what they say.
 

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….. 🤣

this is like stuffing your pants with a cucumber.

nevertheless, applaud the technical aptitude for making it ‘look and feel real’.
 

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They need to add a Jeep 392 option. Who wants to sound like a Mercedes G Wagon? :)
 

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You know, that isn't as crazy as it sounds. The Thor guys have been pretty engaged and have had me download various logs to meet my various requests (mainly on ignition sounds) and I think it might be possible to download the logs around the pedestrian warning system and null that out. I'll ask and see what they say.
Yeah, not crazy at all. Though what I was envisioning was u
Suing The current speakers and just being able the change the sound, not having to go through their entire setup just to alter the pedestrian warning sound. Though, if they figure it out and design a smaller setup for just that...
 

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I think it should play Dixie every time you jump it.
 
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They need to add a Jeep 392 option. Who wants to sound like a Mercedes G Wagon? :)
Actually they are working on that. Most of their sounds are sport cars because most of the people that get this are Tesla owners that want the speed power sound. But I asked about V8, Diesel, and 4x4 sounds and they said they are working on it and will have some new sounds in the next couple months.
 

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You know what would be fun is a retro 4.0 liter TJ sound. That or maybe a tractor or caterpillar sound would be fun when your rock crawling in low gear.
 

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This is probably the most unique 4xe mod that you have ever seen, or HEARD, that is.

Now you may be saying since it’s a 4xe, it doesn’t make sound, right? Well let me introduce you to the ACTIVE EXHAUST SOUND SYSTEM.

First, background: I had a V8 Titan and loved the power and sound from it. Would’ve gone to a 392 if the price difference wasn’t another $50K or even the Diesel if I wasn’t forced to have the red trim.

So obviously getting a 4xe meant I get all the good stuff, but no “sound”. I posted a thread about my initial research on sound systems HERE and HERE and while people pretty much thought I was crazy, another poster later on did create a thread HERE about wanting a sound mod, so I know that I’m not that crazy!

In full disclosure, I will admit that I wasn’t fully committed to 4xe at first, as noted by my Diesel interest HERE and 392 interest HERE (both mainly because I get Power AND Sound). I almost went with the Diesel when I found out I could eliminate the red interior by adjusting settings to a unique build (HERE). But, after getting most of what I want in a new Jeep with the 4xe, it was only the sound that was missing. I even thought about getting a regular exhaust for the 4xe HERE so I can get sound in gas mode, but still wouldn’t get the engine start up sound. Plus would really have to drive it in Manual mode to enjoy the sound and that will kill my MPG.

I started researching ways to get sound from the engine, but really gained traction searching YouTube for “EV Exhaust Sound”. I found many Tesla owners who added a sound system that’s tied into their internal system to get that exhaust sound. It may sound stupid at first, but these are systems connected into your CAN-BUS so the sounds are tied to RPMs and are real sounds.

I found three main distributors (Thor tuning, Milltek, and Kufatec). After speaking and researching them, they all seemed the same. In fact, I think there is just one manufacturer and these are just different distributors, because the devices look exactly the same, price is the same, and all are controlled the same way. Went with Thor because their rep was always available and answered every question I had, promptly. So nothing against Milltek or Kufatec, but it just seems Thors reps are more engaged. However, I don’t think the quality of the devices makes a difference from who it’s coming from. I think they are all the same.

After committing to buying the system ($1000 for one, or $1500 for two), I then had to find anyone who would install this. As you can imagine, everyone I talked to was like, WTF are you talking about. Never mind the fact that we’re talking about a 4xe that hardly anyone has worked on, but now we’re talking about a sound system that is so niche (EV) that no 4x4 store was comfortable with. And of the ones that were willing to try to take a stab at it, were charging 10+ hours for install since it was brand new to them, even though the manufacturer says its no more than 3-4 hours. So I had to expand my search outside of where I live and found a couple places about an hour from me. Ultimately settled on MT Auto in downtown LA, because they are a shop that actually installed a Milltek one on a BMW/Tesla a few years ago, so they had an idea of what I was talking about.

There was a bit of drama during install as Thor made it seem like all we had to do was install it without help, but in reality, they needed to connect to the software DURING install to get the right settings. Mainly because I’m the first Jeep 4xe to use this so they needed the logs to review so they could code it. So while I had to go through this, others with the 4xe won’t because now Thor has the event logs. Considering Thor is based in Russia, coordinating with the 10 hour time difference was a pain. Nonetheless we got all that sorted out. Shout out to the great team at MT Auto for their flexibility and accommodating for me.

Install took about 3 hours and no major modifications needed. They did have to weld a piece to the muffler to hold the device but that was really it. Mainly because there is no space under the 4xe due to all the components. In a regular car, there would be more space so it’s more attaching a big U bolt through and sits next to another part without affecting it. After that, you connect wiring to the CAN-BUS to tie the sound to the RPM. When you hit start (even in electric) it will make a real engine start up sound, and then as the RPMs go up, the sound gets louder. The design/shape of the device allows for authentic exhaust sound. You can select sport cars, muscle cars, among others. And all controlled/adjusted via an app. You can adjust settings like sound, City/Sport, Idle sound, number of chambers, etc. So you can really customize it to your preferred sound.

Here are the videos of some of the options



Driving in Corvette mode. You can hear me drive, then lay off the pedal for bit then step on it again. Whole time was in electric mode





4xe in idle (MB G Wagon 4x4)





4xe in idle (Corvette)





Here are some pics of the Thor ECU unit, and Sound Device
Jeep Wrangler JL LJ’s 4xe …with ACTIVE EXHAUST SOUND SYSTEM Screenshot_20210706-140502_Thor
Jeep Wrangler JL LJ’s 4xe …with ACTIVE EXHAUST SOUND SYSTEM Screenshot_20210706-140502_Thor
Jeep Wrangler JL LJ’s 4xe …with ACTIVE EXHAUST SOUND SYSTEM Screenshot_20210706-140502_Thor
Jeep Wrangler JL LJ’s 4xe …with ACTIVE EXHAUST SOUND SYSTEM Screenshot_20210706-140502_Thor
Jeep Wrangler JL LJ’s 4xe …with ACTIVE EXHAUST SOUND SYSTEM Screenshot_20210706-140502_Thor


If are you interested in hearing more sounds, you can download the Thor tuning app from your app store and run it in demo mode and it will play all the different types of vehicles on your phone. Or if you want me to post a video of mine with all the sounds (as well as changing any of the settings i.e. more backfire, less drone, etc.) I can do that.

I know many of you are seeing this kind of a mod for the first time and think it’s like sticking a Topps card on your bike as a kid. I thought the same when I first came across it. And I’m not sure if the videos do it justice, but this is a bad ass mod that I love, and makes the 4xe have everything I could possibly want in my new Jeep. Not to mention the obvious sound, but also the way the device is built, you actually can feel the vibrations when the sound is loud, like a true exhaust.

This is now a beast that is FUN to drive!

What do you guys think?
This is great, but can you do the reverse and make it silent all the time? The compressor kicking on (even with the ac off) is so loud. I also find even when it's charged and the ac is off, its still loud.
 

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