Leaving the community.

[gato]

Good luck with your Subaru - good vehicles.

But, out of curiosity, with the inevitable trade-in loss, plus new vehicle taxes, etc, did you calculate how many miles/years you will have to drive to break even?

I see this all the time. People trade in cars at a loss, pay higher acquisition costs, some times even finance, taxes etc, but rarely do they do the math on time/miles for the higher MPG to pay off.

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[wibornz]

And hey by all means, I think these are the better looking Subaru anyways.

I would drive this. Now my wife would not.

 

[Flip]

Is this because we have bad posters?

What poster, where?

 

[AcesandEights]

Wow, man...jeebus. This place won't be the same without <insert name>, then <cry emoji>

 

[ForgottenTaco]

Will you be participating in moo moo Subaru?

 

[Zandcwhite]

How much do you need to lift a Subaru to clear 37s? How's the cvt hold up afterwards? Even if it got 50mpg I wouldn't do it, but I still have questions.

 

[Terrymo]

And hey by all means, I think these are the better looking Subaru anyways.

I would drive this. Now my wife would not.

Yeah my wife has better taste than me too
I looked at the Bronco and the Gladiator. She said No and Nope!
Apologies to anyone here with either of those.

 

[jadmt]

And hey by all means, I think these are the better looking Subaru anyways.

I would drive this. Now my wife would not.

when my oldest daughter and her husband who are active winter sports nuts were looking to replace her CRV I suggested she get an Outback as we had a 2000 outback that did exceptional in the snow..she looked at me and laughed and said no way and then said "I guess you and mom never knew subarus are lesbian mobiles" they ended up getting another honda...

 

[rk911]

I'm sad to say I will be leaving the wrangler community and the forum. Would to like thank everyone on the forum for all the info, answeres to questions I asked over the years. I have traded in my 2022 2door3pedal Willys this past weekend.

I needed something with better mileage as a daily driver.....as I may using personal vehicle for work. Switched over to 2025 Crosstrek Wilderness. So I can still do some light trail driving in my little Subie Wagon. Thanks again for all the help last few years.

Chris

Good luck to you. Take care.

 

[Deleted User 38384]

How much do you need to lift a Subaru to clear 37s? How's the cvt hold up afterwards? Even if it got 50mpg I wouldn't do it, but I still have questions.

As a proud homosexual owner of a 2020 Subaru Sport, I can tell you with first hand knowledge that the 2019 Subaru Crosstrek/ Forester/Assent all have the exact same ground clearance at 8.7 in. If you get a Wilderness trim of any of those three models, you get a 2-in coil spacer lift, they do not give you subframe spacers which is what you would need to properly adjust the vehicle for any level of semi-serious off-roading. Also, even if you put a 4-in aftermarket coil and strut lift on it you'll still only be able to fit a max of 29" tires, and even then you still might need to do some trimming in the wheel wells for rubbing at full lock. The max size tires I have seen on any 2019+ Subaru is 30-in tires, and that is with a 6" lift and excessive trimming, I mean replace/remove both bumpers, and trim the actual fender of the vehicle to add that extra inch.

Now mind you we are currently running 235/60r18 29.1" Goodyear Wrangler Workhorse ATs tires and we have gone from an average 31 MPGs at the pump, down to 24 MPGs at the pump. Now mind you our Subaru Forester Sport came with 27-in tires on our factory 18-in wheels. So just adding 2 in taller tires has decimated our MPGs.

I would recommend anyone buying a Subaru, to get some 27-in off-road worthy tires and call it a day. You're not going to be doing any crazy off-roading with a Subaru anyways, hit some light trails, get your high MPGs, and call it a day.

Don't believe me, ask @Mudduck . He's done plenty of cool stuff with his Subicon, hit some interesting looking trails, and is running some really cool looking tires, and still getting 33 MPGs.

Subarus are fun, but you got to be realistic with what they're capable of. Especially with all the technology on them nowadays, you're not going to be doing any sort of serious off-roading with them. And to be 100% honest, the wilderness package is really just a more expensive looks package with a really crappy 2-in lift.

I mean when we bought our Subaru Forester, I was trying to get the Base model to save about $8,000, but my wife wanted either the Premium or the Sport trim. She fell in love with a Sport trim and I was trying to explain to her, "You realize for your personal use, you're buying a $6,000 looks package with features you will never use?" And she said, "I don't care I want it", so I said...

It's a nice vehicle. You know how the Jeep says "Trail Rated" on the side of it? Well even though the Subaru doesn't say this, what it should say to correlate what it's actually capable of; it should say "Cabin Rated", because that's what it's capable of... Driving down that gravel road, onto the dirt road, through a little bit of wet spots, on your way to the Cabin. Anything beyond that is questionable at best, and you're probably going to have to do some sketchy shit to get your vehicle to make it there. Trust me I've been there. I won't get too indepth into it, but if you're on a trail and your Subaru's computer won't let you go any further because it's too steep of an incline or there's a tree root in your path and it doesn't like that, you can pull a certain fuse in the fuse panel beneath the steering wheel, and your dash will light up like a Christmas tree, but as long as you stay in drive, you can make it up pretty much anything at that point. Just don't put it in park or reverse or you'll have to replace the fuse and restart the vehicle.

It's not meant for off-roading, it really is only "Cabin Rated"!

 

[siggy]

As a proud homosexual owner of a 2020 Subaru Sport, I can tell you with first hand knowledge that the 2019 Subaru Crosstrek/ Forester/Assent all have the exact same ground clearance at 8.7 in. If you get a Wilderness trim of any of those three models, you get a 2-in coil spacer lift, they do not give you subframe spacers which is what you would need to properly adjust the vehicle for any level of semi-serious off-roading. Also, even if you put a 4-in aftermarket coil and strut lift on it you'll still only be able to fit a max of 29" tires, and even then you still might need to do some trimming in the wheel wells for rubbing at full lock. The max size tires I have seen on any 2019+ Subaru is 30-in tires, and that is with a 6" lift and excessive trimming, I mean replace/remove both bumpers, and trim the actual fender of the vehicle to add that extra inch.

Now mind you we are currently running 235/60r18 29.1" Goodyear Wrangler Workhorse ATs tires and we have gone from an average 31 MPGs at the pump, down to 24 MPGs at the pump. Now mind you our Subaru Forester Sport came with 27-in tires on our factory 18-in wheels. So just adding 2 in taller tires has decimated our MPGs.

I would recommend anyone buying a Subaru, to get some 27-in off-road worthy tires and call it a day. You're not going to be doing any crazy off-roading with a Subaru anyways, hit some light trails, get your high MPGs, and call it a day.

Don't believe me, ask @Mudduck . He's done plenty of cool stuff with his Subicon, hit some interesting looking trails, and is running some really cool looking tires, and still getting 33 MPGs.

Subarus are fun, but you got to be realistic with what they're capable of. Especially with all the technology on them nowadays, you're not going to be doing any sort of serious off-roading with them. And to be 100% honest, the wilderness package is really just a more expensive looks package with a really crappy 2-in lift.

I mean when we bought our Subaru Forester, I was trying to get the Base model to save about $8,000, but my wife wanted either the Premium or the Sport trim. She fell in love with a Sport trim and I was trying to explain to her, "You realize for your personal use, you're buying a $6,000 looks package with features you will never use?" And she said, "I don't care I want it", so I said...

It's a nice vehicle. You know how the Jeep says "Trail Rated" on the side of it? Well even though the Subaru doesn't say this, what it should say to correlate what it's actually capable of; it should say "Cabin Rated", because that's what it's capable of... Driving down that gravel road, onto the dirt road, through a little bit of wet spots, on your way to the Cabin. Anything beyond that is questionable at best, and you're probably going to have to do some sketchy shit to get your vehicle to make it there. Trust me I've been there. I won't get too indepth into it, but if you're on a trail and your Subaru's computer won't let you go any further because it's too steep of an incline or there's a tree root in your path and it doesn't like that, you can pull a certain fuse in the fuse panel beneath the steering wheel, and your dash will light up like a Christmas tree, but as long as you stay in drive, you can make it up pretty much anything at that point. Just don't put it in park or reverse or you'll have to replace the fuse and restart the vehicle.

It's not meant for off-roading, it really is only "Cabin Rated"!

Homosexual? I thought you had a wife? I can’t keep up these days.

 

[Deleted User 38384]

Homosexual? I thought you had a wife? I can’t keep up these days.

I hate to break it to you, but if you own one of these vehicles...

 

[Old Dogger]

Good luck to you!

 

[Phrank]

Homosexual? I thought you had a wife? I can’t keep up these days.

Beard.

 

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