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I watched a lot of Bronco testing footage last year, and TFL's video didn't really surprise me. The Bronco performed just like that in those videos, sometimes teetering on three wheels; but making it.

A lot of the posters on 6G, including myself; admitted that they wouldn't be using their Broncos for crawling any rocks, and that the Wrangler was more suited for that.
Many times I've read this same thing. That someone won't be climbing rocks, so the bronco will be fine. A deep rut in a dirt path will require the same level of articulation as a rock.

Here's a prime example, taken from the original reveal video last year. And within seconds of this clip, the camera person cleverly used a rock on the side of the path to obscure yet another wheel lift and it wasn't climbing a rock. It was a simple rut in a dirt path.

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Those posters on 6g are simply making excuses and kidding themselves by saying that they "don't care about rocks anyway".
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Many times I've read this same thing. That someone won't be climbing rocks, so the bronco will be fine. A deep rut in a dirt path will require the same level of articulation as a rock.

Here's a prime example, taken from the original reveal video last year. And within seconds of this clip, the camera person cleverly used a rock on the side of the path to obscure yet another wheel lift and it wasn't climbing a rock. It was a simple rut in a dirt path.
If you have lockers I don't get what the big deal is about one wheel being off the ground; as far as making it up the trail it simply doesn't matter and seems to be a big deal simply because it's an advantage to having solid axles rather than IFS.
 

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If you have lockers I don't get what the big deal is about one wheel being off the ground; as far as making it up the trail it simply doesn't matter and seems to be a big deal simply because it's an advantage to having solid axles rather than IFS.
Yes, lockers are there to shrug off wheel lift, but having all 4 tires on the ground equals more stability. And maintaining full contact to a higher threshold of whoops equals enhanced capability. It raises the safety margin.

It's the ill attempt to compartmentalize a designed in weakness that I was pointing out.

There's a good reason why every bronco trim gets f&r lockers. Because they will be needed a whole lot sooner and more often than a similarly setup wrangler.
 

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Many times I've read this same thing. That someone won't be climbing rocks, so the bronco will be fine. A deep rut in a dirt path will require the same level of articulation as a rock.

Here's a prime example, taken from the original reveal video last year. And within seconds of this clip, the camera person cleverly used a rock on the side of the path to obscure yet another wheel lift and it wasn't climbing a rock. It was a simple rut in a dirt path.

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Those posters on 6g are simply making excuses and kidding themselves by saying that they "don't care about rocks anyway".
I remember that video.

I can only speak for myself, but I know I wouldn't have done much rock crawling, if any, in the Bronco. I'm not sure I'll do it in my Jeep, but it's nice to know I could, or if I got stuck in a situation like above the chance is, my other wheel would make contact with the ground.
 

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Yes, lockers are there to shrug off wheel lift, but having all 4 tires on the ground equals more stability. And maintaining full contact to a higher threshold of whoops equals enhanced capability. It raises the safety margin.
I don't think it's really that big a deal, rather like inside rear wheel lift on hard corners at speed on some sports cars.

Arguably offset by the improved safety/performance on-road where the majority of both vehicles will spend most of their time.

Either way it seems like a wash, but I don't have a dog in this hunt.
 

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Do open-diff Broncos have something like BLD?
 

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Many times I've read this same thing. That someone won't be climbing rocks, so the bronco will be fine. A deep rut in a dirt path will require the same level of articulation as a rock.

Here's a prime example, taken from the original reveal video last year. And within seconds of this clip, the camera person cleverly used a rock on the side of the path to obscure yet another wheel lift and it wasn't climbing a rock. It was a simple rut in a dirt path.

20201023_102215.gif


Those posters on 6g are simply making excuses and kidding themselves by saying that they "don't care about rocks anyway".
The front tires are not moving at all. Looks like it's in rear wheel drive and we can't see where there action is.
 

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Do open-diff Broncos have something like BLD?
That's a good question. I was going to order mine with a rear locker, but after having a Jeep, it would have to be either a Base Sasquatch or badlands.
 
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That's a good question. I was going to order mine with a rear locker, but after having a Jeep, it would have to be either a Base Sasquatch or badlands.
I agree with you. I would think they would have something similar as something that heavy wouldn’t get far without it.
 

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If you have lockers I don't get what the big deal is about one wheel being off the ground; as far as making it up the trail it simply doesn't matter and seems to be a big deal simply because it's an advantage to having solid axles rather than IFS.
If you have ever been in that situation then you know what the big deal is.
 

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Then you really haven't.

I almost flipped my 2009 JKR going downhill over a chute on Cleghorn Mountain. Turning into a switchback, my front passenger-side tire caught air; when the weight of the engine dropped the left side of the Jeep into the chute, it almost flipped over. It didn't by a miracle. Major pucker moment.

Took it as one of those life's lessons.

That trail was more extreme than anything Tommy shows on that video. Plus he was catching air going uphill. It is much easier to balance the weight of the vehicle going up than going down.
 
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The front tires are not moving at all. Looks like it's in rear wheel drive and we can't see where there action is.
In this specific clip, the bronco was deliberately stopped mid rut in the trail to demonstrate that the front sway bar disconnect can operate under a load. Both rear tires were on the ground at the time. What it also demonstrated is that it doesn't take much to lift a tire.
 

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Then you really haven't.

I almost flipped my 2009 JKR going downhill over a chute on Cleghorn Mountain. Turning into a switchback, my front passenger-side tire caught air; when the weight of the engine dropped the left side of the Jeep into the chute, it almost flipped over. It didn't by a miracle. Major pucker moment.
That's because you were driving a vehicle in which having a wheel in the air is a rare occurrence, not one designed to handle it as a vehicle with IFS is.

Watching the videos where this happens it doesn't look scary, it looks fun.

I agree, your experience was scary, but as in your case it shows that any unexpected incident off-road in any vehicle can be vehicle/life threatening.
 
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