JL Wrangler vs New Ford Bronco

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Good comparison video. Looked to me the stock badlands cleaned up just as well as those highly modified JL’s on the trail.
I found it interesting that those same guys were also showcasing a ranger/bronco setup that would accommodate up to 40's. At the same time though, it also showed the limits of short arm IFS when in the whoops. Still interesting





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The old, first gen Bronco was a nice little rig (similar to a Scout, a bit more sohisticated than the same vintage CJ) - they morphed into an Elephant on stilts. If you want something that big might as well use a full size pickup. I strongly suspect the ”New Bronco” will do the same. Doesn’t do it for me-I’ll stay with Jeep, esp now that they’ve matured into a rig that has real doors and window😏
 

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If you want something that big might as well use a full size pickup. I strongly suspect the ”New Bronco” will do the same. Doesn’t do it for me-I’ll stay with Jeep
Currently the bronco is based off of the ranger chassis, so I suspect it will stay in that mid-size range for the foreseeable future.

I see the appeal of the Bronco and I am sure it is a threat to Wrangler sales. I don't expect that they'll be able to poach me away from Jeep, but the Bronco will be able to do everything most Wrangler owners ask of it but with a better ride, handling, and no steering complaints thanks to the IFS while also having the open top and doorless ability. The bronco has all of the updates the FJ Cruiser should have had about 10 years ago.
 

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The old, first gen Bronco was a nice little rig (similar to a Scout, a bit more sohisticated than the same vintage CJ) - they morphed into an Elephant on stilts. If you want something that big might as well use a full size pickup. I strongly suspect the ”New Bronco” will do the same. Doesn’t do it for me-I’ll stay with Jeep, esp now that they’ve matured into a rig that has real doors and window😏
One big positive for be in regards to the Bronco is that its doors are frameless out of the box so i don't have to spend $4K to get half doors for my JL and the color not even fully match the body.

That said, i wouldn't trade in my JL to get a Bronco.
 

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I think it is funny that they showed the Bronco climbing Hell's Gate. To bad they are three years late behind KIA. Hell's Gate... Pfff. Kia climbed it with a Sorento SUV. So the Bronco doing it is really not that impressive.



But hey, 5 years ago Subaru ran Hell's Revenge trail.



The real problem with the Bronco is in five or six years it will be just another beater with a heater. Just like a whipped out S-10 Blazer.
Except none of those kommie kars are freedom loving convertibles 🇺🇸
 

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Bronco doors are frameless? Uh-oh...!

Between the shaking and rattling on the trails, and Ford quality, how long before those windows come off their rails...?
 

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Only way I’d consider a bronco is if I can test drive one AND actually get a deal on one. My rubicon is thousands less than what a comparable bronco would be, and I really do like it. I pretty much canceled my reservation after I found out that you can’t get a bronco base model with the Sasquatch package and the manual transmission in a 4 door. That is the only way it would’ve been cheaper msrp, but I guess Ford knew that
 

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Only way I’d consider a bronco is if I can test drive one AND actually get a deal on one. My rubicon is thousands less than what a comparable bronco would be, and I really do like it. I pretty much canceled my reservation after I found out that you can’t get a bronco base model with the Sasquatch package and the manual transmission in a 4 door. That is the only way it would’ve been cheaper msrp, but I guess Ford knew that
Mines $48k. The comparable Jeep Rubi is $53k.

All those Jeep owners that are raving what the Bronco can do absolutely verify I made the right choice. I have yet to see a stock Jeep rubi do something the Bronco can’t.
 

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Mines $48k. The comparable Jeep Rubi is $53k.

All those Jeep owners that are raving what the Bronco can do absolutely verify I made the right choice. I have yet to see a stock Jeep rubi do something the Bronco can’t.
Is it a badlands? Do you have the few thousand dollar option that gives you heated seats like my rubi has for a few hundred bucks? I got my JLUR for quite a few grand under msrp, which is my point.
Glad you were able to build something that’s worth it to you tho, I really wanted to but couldn’t justify spending more money for something with less options
 

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Only way I’d consider a bronco is if I can test drive one AND actually get a deal on one. My rubicon is thousands less than what a comparable bronco would be, and I really do like it. I pretty much canceled my reservation after I found out that you can’t get a bronco base model with the Sasquatch package and the manual transmission in a 4 door. That is the only way it would’ve been cheaper msrp, but I guess Ford knew that
They backtracked that, you can get a manual with the sasquatch package now. Their website build thing doesn't do it, guess they copied Jeeps inaccurate website build configuration too haha.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a34094734/ford-bronco-manual-transmission-sasquatch/

I just like how a-la-carte Broncos can be. You're not forced into trims and massive bundles of options you don't want, just to get one thing you do want. Jeep having a sasquatch equivalent for any trim would be amazing!
 

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Mines $48k. The comparable Jeep Rubi is $53k.

All those Jeep owners that are raving what the Bronco can do absolutely verify I made the right choice. I have yet to see a stock Jeep rubi do something the Bronco can’t.
Are those MSRP or are did you get a deal on the Bronco?

I ended up cancelling my Bronco Badlands order after the Spring to Summer delay and ended up in a Wrangler. The comparable (Bronco Badlands) was $61k+fees+taxes (Washington) - MSRP was the only option within the state, sadly. I was originally comparing MSRP as well.. little did I know there was significant deviation after getting invoice pricing and negotiating from there (same with my WRX).

The comparable Rubicon was $53k+fees+taxes (5% under invoice), leaving me with $8k of what I was originally intending to spend for aftermarket accessories.

I have a feeling the general availability of the Bronco on the market will fuel sweeter deals while buying a Jeep. Now you have 1) Jeep dealers against each other and 2) Ford dealers.

Ford is being incredibly aggressive on the lower trims, it seems like they are trying to price the higher trims dollar for dollar.
 

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They backtracked that, you can get a manual with the sasquatch package now. Their website build thing doesn't do it, guess they copied Jeeps inaccurate website build configuration too haha.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a34094734/ford-bronco-manual-transmission-sasquatch/

I just like how a-la-carte Broncos can be. You're not forced into trims and massive bundles of options you don't want, just to get one thing you do want. Jeep having a sasquatch equivalent for any trim would be amazing!
Right, but you still can’t get that combo on the base model 4 door, unless something changed? 4 door can’t be had with the manual on a base model when I was looking to convert my res to an order, so I cancelled and got my rubi
 

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Right, but you still can’t get that combo on the base model 4 door, unless something changed? 4 door can’t be had with the manual on a base model when I was looking to convert my res to an order, so I cancelled and got my rubi
Ahh not sure on the 4 door, I'd assume so but who knows. That's what you get for not getting the correct number of doors :giggle:

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