JL Wrangler vs New Ford Bronco

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I order almost all my vehicles. $40/50k is too much to pay to not get what you want and or pay thousands for something you never use.

In saying this, I don’t pay msrp but that is where I start as it is where the manufacturer has stated the value to be. You can state you paid $40k for your Jeep and no one has a clue as to if you paid $10k more than msrp or $30k less than msrp. We use msrp as a comparable data point. Why would anyone compare numbers without a comparable data point?
example: I can get a new Bronco for $30k a friend just paid $90k for his new JL. In conclusion the Bronco is so much cheaper!

In the 8 years since I purchased my 12 JK Rubicon the price has gone up by $20k. Seems a bit pricey for what you get.

Let me be brief. You are insulting both the JL and a JL owner by what you call a joke. With your joke you said: 1. if you don’t mod you should by a Bronco. 2. If you don’t mod the JL is incapable to go off-road.
I disagree with both of those items.
Showed me where I said you cant offroad a stock jeep.
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Yeah you should own a Bronco. a Bronco sport would be even better for your kind of mods.
Showed me where I said you cant offroad a stock jeep.
Above. Unless you were implying the new Bronco Sport is better off road than a slightly modified JL Rubicon.
 

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Above. Unless you were implying the new Bronco Sport is better off road than a slightly modified JL Rubicon.
I didnt. All I said, if you complain about a JL not having LED, 8.4 screen as base options. A Bronco will serve you better. If thats what you care about, a Bronco sport would do just fine.

I never implied anything that you are saying.

They all can offroad. Stock Jeeps, modified jeeps, even the bronco sport can hit the trails. And I believe the Bronco badlands/sasquatch would be just as good as a stock JL Rubicon in its own way, but I cant tell for sure cause it doesnt exist.

Listen. Those of us who love Jeeps, we wont sell them because they dont have a big screen. We care about its capabilities offroad above all else. Does that make it clear? I did not insult anyone. I really mean it. If anyone doesnt like their JLs cause they dont have a big touchscreen and LED lights, the Bronco will be a much better option for them. Thats it.

I am pretty excited about the new Bronco btw. Itll make the next Jeep even better.
 

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Great, you admit Jeep makes more 2dr Rubicon’s than people want allowing you to buy for a cheaper price. Congrats

More than people that aren’t on oxy!

Speaking of...the last Jeep dealer I was at, the salesman said we are the best dealer, biggest dealer(I’m sure in the area), people come from other states just to buy from them. Had 4 2dr Ruicons stick on the lot for the past 3 months and had not sold one. They were also advertising $8k off of the JL. Dropped by in person and they gave my their best and final of $2.5k off. Would have cost me over $56k otd on 2 dr Jeep. I walked across the street and purchased my F250 Tremor for about $1k more.
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Well can't wait to see you out on the Rubicon Trail with your ford.
 

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Oh look, the same Bronco brown nosers still rubbing their faces deep in while denouncing Jeep every other post. How surprising!
As a former JK Rubicon owner, the Jeep JL is a very strong and capable off road vehicle. I’m a little taken aback on how the JL owners don’t feel the same way. They are always talking about the modifications or how cheap they are.
 

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Great, you admit Jeep makes more 2dr Rubicon’s than people want allowing you to buy for a cheaper price. Congrats

More than people that aren’t on oxy!

Speaking of...the last Jeep dealer I was at, the salesman said we are the best dealer, biggest dealer(I’m sure in the area), people come from other states just to buy from them. Had 4 2dr Ruicons stick on the lot for the past 3 months and had not sold one. They were also advertising $8k off of the JL. Dropped by in person and they gave my their best and final of $2.5k off. Would have cost me over $56k otd on 2 dr Jeep. I walked across the street and purchased my F250 Tremor for about $1k more.
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So you wanted an apple and bought an orange.
 

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Above. Unless you were implying the new Bronco Sport is better off road than a slightly modified JL Rubicon.
I think he was just messing with me, when i talked about some of the mods I added.

I didnt. All I said, if you complain about a JL not having LED, 8.4 screen as base options. A Bronco will serve you better. If thats what you care about, a Bronco sport would do just fine.

I never implied anything that you are saying.

They all can offroad. Stock Jeeps, modified jeeps, even the bronco sport can hit the trails. And I believe the Bronco badlands/sasquatch would be just as good as a stock JL Rubicon in its own way, but I cant tell for sure cause it doesnt exist.

Listen. Those of us who love Jeeps, we wont sell them because they dont have a big screen. We care about its capabilities offroad above all else. Does that make it clear? I did not insult anyone. I really mean it. If anyone doesnt like their JLs cause they dont have a big touchscreen and LED lights, the Bronco will be a much better option for them. Thats it.

I am pretty excited about the new Bronco btw. Itll make the next Jeep even better.
I know it it's kind of hard to tell what people mean through typed words, but I wasn't really complaining. I was just comparing the trucks and trying to add to the conversation, by explaining my experience. My previous Jeep was a bare bones manual JK, and I loved it.

I got your joke though.
 

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I wheeled a 4” lifted WK with IFS for 10 years, lots of rock crawling with extreme articulation. It did fine, but a bit less stable on the trail than my friends‘ straight axle Jeeps. I went back to a straight front axle primarily due to weakness of the IFS bushings; I had to have them replaced every 25k miles at $1000 per replacement. I don’t know if Ford IFS bushings will last longer, but in 80k miles I never touched the WK’s rear (straight axle) bushings, but the front (IFS) bushings had the durability of marshmallows. I suspect IFS geometry prevents creation of durable bushings.

Regarding Ford quality, we have a 2020 Lincoln Corsair and EVERY body panel was misaligned from the factory. 2020 Aviators also had horrible QA from the factory. Right now, Ford doesn’t have a great track record for QA on new model roll outs.
 

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Every time I see Ford’s footage of the new Bronco rock crawling —which, btw, looks like accelerated replay video speed— the suspension doesn’t quite articulate, more like bounces over the rocks.

I think that’s already an early indication of Bronco’s limitations with the IFS.
 

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So you wanted an apple and bought an orange.
Why spend $50k on something that does one thing when you can spend the same money for something that does 4.
 

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Why spend $50k on something that does one thing when you can spend the same money for something that does 4.
Nothing wrong with it at all. My point, obviously was not received, you are comparing apples and oranges.
From grammarist.com for you to understand my comment - The idiom comparing apples and oranges means that one is trying to draw similarities between two things that are not similar. Though one may argue that apples and oranges are both fruit, they do not look, taste, feel, or smell the same.
 
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