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With a little more thinking they probably could have gotten rid of some of those buttons. The Volume/Tune knobs could have been placed somehwere else and smaller - also tune knob is on the opposite side of the driver, but I guess you can change that on the wheel. The vent selection could have been a knob and the temps could have been scroll-wheels.
Smaller controls makes it harder with gloves on, many car manufacturers are trying to avoid fiddly little controls if they can avoid it for that reason.

I think it’s a trade-off of how much space optimization can you make before it inhibits use for some owners.





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With a little more thinking they probably could have gotten rid of some of those buttons. The Volume/Tune knobs could have been placed somehwere else and smaller - also tune knob is on the opposite side of the driver, but I guess you can change that on the wheel. The vent selection could have been a knob and the temps could have been scroll-wheels.
I like the big knobs. They should work well with gloves.

Edit....Ape beat me to it.
 

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Don't wear gloves, but they don't have to be that small, i.e., so small you can't operate them with gloves. Anyway, reducing buttons would help with gloves. Vents on my TJ are controlled with turning a single knob, instead of 4-5 buttons. Temp is controlled with a single knob instead of 2 buttons.

Why is everyone putting giant fugly HAZARD! buttons right in the middle of the dash?
 

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Why is everyone putting giant fugly HAZARD! buttons right in the middle of the dash?
Likely some Dumba$$.. err... poor unfortunate soul was injured or died because they couldn’t find the location of theirs, and they or their estate sued for half the national income of Muldova for that ‘design flaw’.

So now all the mfrs make sure they are impossible to miss.
 

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Don't wear gloves, but they don't have to be that small, i.e., so small you can't operate them with gloves. Anyway, reducing buttons would help with gloves. Vents on my TJ are controlled with turning a single knob, instead of 4-5 buttons. Temp is controlled with a single knob instead of 2 buttons.

Why is everyone putting giant fugly HAZARD! buttons right in the middle of the dash?
I used to hate those hazard buttons, but after living with my 99 E430, I'm sold on them. Every other vehicle is a pain...The JK is down low enough you have to take eyes off the road to hit it, others are tiny buttons on top of the steering column, and so-on. I'd like some uniformity, but if we can't have that, then a big, easy to find button is good with me, even if it looks awkward.

Looking at it again, I think this one is easy to hit without taking eyes off the road, but still not obnoxious. The one in my Mercedes is incredibly obnoxios, placed top center of the dash with a huge triangle that sticks out and lights up bright red at night. You could be blind and have no trouble hitting it. The JL is a nice compromise, IMO.
 

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I used to hate those hazard buttons, but after living with my 99 E430, I'm sold on them. Every other vehicle is a pain...The JK is down low enough you have to take eyes off the road to hit it, others are tiny buttons on top of the steering column, and so-on. I'd like some uniformity, but if we can't have that, then a big, easy to find button is good with me, even if it looks awkward.

Looking at it again, I think this one is easy to hit without taking eyes off the road, but still not obnoxious. The one in my Mercedes is incredibly obnoxios, placed top center of the dash with a huge triangle that sticks out and lights up bright red at night. You could be blind and have no trouble hitting it. The JL is a nice compromise, IMO.
Why do you need to turn your hazard lights on while driving? I can't remember having to use a hazard light in 20 years. Maybe once while stopped on the side of the road. Certainly didn't need to find it in a hurry, but it isn't hard to find anyway.
 

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Why do you need to turn your hazard lights on while driving? I can't remember having to use a hazard light in 20 years. Maybe once while stopped on the side of the road. Certainly didn't need to find it in a hurry, but it isn't hard to find anyway.
Snow storms. I like to be able to find them without taking my eyes off the only 10 ft of road I can see.
 

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Snow storms. I like to be able to find them without taking my eyes off the only 10 ft of road I can see.
so you forget where it is every time? Seems like steering wheel is a better place for that if you don't want your hands off the wheel.
 

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Why do you need to turn your hazard lights on while driving?
‘Have to’ , perhaps in a snow storm or other low visibility times.

But when ‘do I’ use the Hazards while driving?

When signalling other vehicles, usually either as a thank you when a hand wave isn’t visible, or to advise people of genuine hazards ahead (usually animals on/near the road or else rock slides, etc). Those are the main times, when having it handy and easily accessible can be beneficial.
I probably use the Hazards while driving for both of those reasons about 20 times a year, but I’m sure that’s way more than most.

Heck my main complaint, is it doesn’t feel as robust as the old switches and my ‘more frequent use’ makes me concerned I’ll break it.
 

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so you forget where it is every time? Seems like steering wheel is a better place for that if you don't want your hands off the wheel.
Not every time - just every November for the first few years. I've been loving my jeep since 2004, though, so it's no longer a problem. And honestly, I've never driven a car that puts the hazards where you want to find them, when you need them. If they did, I'd be annoyed that they were in the way on a daily basis....
 

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Why do you need to turn your hazard lights on while driving? I can't remember having to use a hazard light in 20 years. Maybe once while stopped on the side of the road. Certainly didn't need to find it in a hurry, but it isn't hard to find anyway.
Living overseas, you get used to seeing drivers use their hazard lights to alert drivers following them to an accident or a big slow down in traffic speed.
 

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I like how the hazard button is centered on the dash. Very neat.
 

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Why do you need to turn your hazard lights on while driving? I can't remember having to use a hazard light in 20 years. Maybe once while stopped on the side of the road. Certainly didn't need to find it in a hurry, but it isn't hard to find anyway.
When coming up on traffic that has suddenly stopped or slowed dramatically, I put them on to wake up the folks behind me who might be half asleep and not react quickly to just brake lights. People get rear-ended every day on the road on which I drive to and from work. Also, I put them on in heavy snow storms and more often, rain storms. I also use them every time I pull onto the shoulder to help someone. Do I forget where the switch is? Yes, because I drive 4 different vehicles. Only my Ford Transit Van and Mercedes E430 have them in the top center area of the dash. My F150 has it on top of the steering wheel stalk, and my JK has it down low in the center stack, in maybe the worst place possible. I'm a pilot, and I understand the importance and safety of keeping your eyes out of the "cockpit" and on the road.
 

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