JL Window Sticker and Build Sheet Order Tracking

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Same!

What did you order?

JLU High Altitude in granite
3.0 Ecodiesel
Cold, advanced tech, tow packages
Gray leather interior
Sky one touch roof

Ordered 5/11
Has been in D for 3 weeks
JLU Sahara
2.0L
Bright white
Dark saddle leather
LED Group
Advanced saftey
Black 3 piece hardtop
Mopar headliner
Rubber Floor mats
Remote start
Proximity entry
8.4 audio
Gorilla glass

Apparently gorilla glass is causing delays. Dealer had another guy's order in 3 weeks while mines still in D😂😢



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Ya, they can't convince me there isn't pattern. Last week it was 2.0 Sports, then 3.6 Rubicons, now 4XE. Not a coincidence that certain vehicles hit all together at the same time. Good luck.. Hang in there. Mines not showing a build sheet but it's in paint so who knows.
Fun. What would convince you?

Here are "days past a certain point" and a number associated with the model (4xe, 392, sport, rubicon, sahara, not necessarily in that order). These are days where 100% of the build sheets posted were the listed model:
18632 1
18634 1
18636 3
18641 2
18644 1
18647 2
18671 3
18672 3
18693 2
18707 1
18714 2
18721 2
18722 3
18726 1
18734 0
18749 3
18763 0
18769 3
18776 0
18783 0

There seems to be a good supply of "0" lately, but its rare in the last six months that they "only build model XYZ" and any given day. Twenty out of 180 days.

Here are three popular models, percentage of daily build sheets posted for the last six months:
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Let us know the pattern and we'll construct graphs that more readily show it. :tumbleweed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
 

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Fun. What would convince you?

Here are "days past a certain point" and a number associated with the model (4xe, 392, sport, rubicon, sahara, not necessarily in that order). These are days where 100% of the build sheets posted were the listed model:
18632 1
18634 1
18636 3
18641 2
18644 1
18647 2
18671 3
18672 3
18693 2
18707 1
18714 2
18721 2
18722 3
18726 1
18734 0
18749 3
18763 0
18769 3
18776 0
18783 0

There seems to be a good supply of "0" lately, but its rare in the last six months that they "only build model XYZ" and any given day. Twenty out of 180 days.

Here are three popular models, percentage of daily build sheets posted for the last six months:
t.png


Let us know the pattern and we'll construct graphs that more readily show it. :tumbleweed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
Math don’t lie 😂
 

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Anyone have Jeep Chat show something different/wrong for them?

Thursday I checked in and was told I was in Trim. I checked again Friday and they said all my parts were in and awaiting building. So I told the agent that “yesterday I was told I was in trim”, and right away the agent said I’m in Paint now. Then I checked again today and am told that I have all the parts and am waiting to be built. Not sure who’s looking at the wrong screen and who’s looking at the right one but I can’t seem to get a straight answer here.
 

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JLU Sahara
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Bright white
Dark saddle leather
LED Group
Advanced saftey
Black 3 piece hardtop
Mopar headliner
Rubber Floor mats
Remote start
Proximity entry
8.4 audio
Gorilla glass

Apparently gorilla glass is causing delays. Dealer had another guy's order in 3 weeks while mines still in D😂😢
Damnit!!!! I didn’t even order that…my dealer added it for me. 🤦‍♀️😭🤣

anyone know what the average delay is for Gorilla glass?
 

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Anyone have Jeep Chat show something different/wrong for them?

Thursday I checked in and was told I was in Trim. I checked again Friday and they said all my parts were in and awaiting building. So I told the agent that “yesterday I was told I was in trim”, and right away the agent said I’m in Paint now. Then I checked again today and am told that I have all the parts and am waiting to be built. Not sure who’s looking at the wrong screen and who’s looking at the right one but I can’t seem to get a straight answer here.
I chatted with them today and got the same standard “you’re waiting for build” answer. Then when I asked why the delay she kept saying they expect to resume June 14th. What is she talking about!? Is the plant closed??
 

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Anyone have Jeep Chat show something different/wrong for them?

Thursday I checked in and was told I was in Trim. I checked again Friday and they said all my parts were in and awaiting building. So I told the agent that “yesterday I was told I was in trim”, and right away the agent said I’m in Paint now. Then I checked again today and am told that I have all the parts and am waiting to be built. Not sure who’s looking at the wrong screen and who’s looking at the right one but I can’t seem to get a straight answer here.
Definitely - I had one session just like that - telling me all parts were ready and it was waiting to be built and I said “hey I was told 12 days ago it was in JB status”. She replied yes it is now at the body vendor…. 🙄

Another time the session started with the agent welcoming me to Dodge Chat! 😂

I imagine it’s a big call center somewhere covering multiple brands with randomly generated names and chatbot technology to answer common questions…
 

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I chatted with them today and got the same standard “you’re waiting for build” answer. Then when I asked why the delay she kept saying they expect to resume June 14th. What is she talking about!? Is the plant closed??
i don’t think the plant would be closed. It seems like they’re still pushing out Jeeps since people are still getting build and sticker sheets. I don’t see anything about a closure or strike from a quick google search. Worst case is some part of the assembly line malfunctioned/broke causing the plant to shut down?
 

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Damnit!!!! I didn’t even order that…my dealer added it for me. 🤦‍♀️😭🤣

anyone know what the average delay is for Gorilla glass?
So far I don't think anyone has come forward that ordered Gorilla that is past a D status. It became available around 5/6-5/7 and seems all who ordered since then have been stuck. There's a thread trying to track it here.
 

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So far I don't think anyone has come forward that ordered Gorilla that is past a D status. It became available around 5/6-5/7 and seems all who ordered since then have been stuck. There's a thread trying to track it here.
Thank you!
 

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I placed an order on 4/19 that has finally been built. It is the v6 with manual transmission. Watching the build threads and chatting with my dealer, I suspect two factors are taken into consideration on how quickly something gets built and shipped.

1) The type of build. I saw many v6 manual transmission builds lag the v4 or 4xe counterparts, but at some point, most of the v6 and manual transmissions were built within a similar time frame.

2) Shipping to the dealer or to the area of the dealer. I see that along with my build, my dealer is in receipt of at least another 6-7 wranglers. I suspect Jeep is doing this to maximize cost savings on shipping, which would make sense.

Just my .02. Good luck with the builds all
 

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I have been watching the build sheet tracker, not a lot of 3.0s getting built either. so maybe I am suffering from multiple hold-ups, 3.0, trail cam, Hardtop headliner, and Gorilla glass.
I have all the options you have except the gorilla glass. Sounds like the glass could be a cause of delay.
 

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Math don’t lie 😂
There are interesting patterns in the strangest of places, but these features by themselves are insufficient to make confident estimates beyond the most glaring outliers, and even then those outliers "can" still be built quickly in some cases. What I've found most convincing (that there isn't a useful pattern) are the ongoing lack of correlations and low predictive probabilities between various conditions. Just to make doubly sure that people would believe the "basic mathematics", I even stuffed it into a "machine learning :facepalm:" model and with six months of data it couldn't predict the next week with better than 40% accuracy, and only 20% the week after that.

I don't state that there is no pattern, only that any obvious pattern is likely to only be temporary, and any subtle pattern is likely to benefit only a small number of those ordering Jeeps, who may not even be on these threads.

What I find most... surprising, is that in all of these we have no actual stories. No single person with a story of working in an automotive manufacturing or assembly plant talking about the mess of scheduling. Not a single leaked reference about "picking order sheets out of a hat", nor "finding a lost order four months later", nor "walking past and shuffling the order sheet priority", nor even "assembled in order of request". While it's true that significant shortages or engineering problems would be business information capable of causing potential harm, there's no particular trade secret to "an assembly line where build priority is given to dealers' names starting with the letter J and rail shipping systems that can guarantee rail car availability four days in advance".

In fact, it's likely that no one in the assembly plant has much idea what's going on either. At this point they likely have some combination of very outdated software designed by a collection of interns and contractors over the last forty years, coupled with manual data entry processes and some modern rfid tracking in places, from which they can get a report about available parking lot space (for post-assembly), inspection schedules (for extra QA needs), incoming supply chain, outgoing shipping schedules, etc. If there's a human, their sole job is probably to look through the 100 or so scheduled for assembly tomorrow and validate that nothing absolutely insane is going to happen on the line ("We can't build that! We don't have gorilla glass yet! [files ticket with software team]"). They can probably even see those that are most delayed and figure out why and get them moving, but that's boring so why do that more than once a week.
 

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