JL Rubicon on Method Wheels...let's see em!

ChattVol

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 29, 2018
Messages
2,446
Reaction score
2,627
Location
Tennessee
Vehicle(s)
JLU 4 door
Is there any way to visually tell the difference between a Method 312 that is 17x9 and one that is 17x8.5?

What does this look like?

jlur method MR312 9.jpg
Tough to tell based on a pic...but it looks like 17x9 with 4.5 backspacing on 37" Toyo MT's. A 17x9 wheel with 4.5 backspacing pushes the tire 1/2" further away from the body for 1/2" more inner clearance vs. the 17x8.5 with 4.75 backspacing. I'd definitely go with the 17x9 for clearance for bigger flex wheelin. That extra 1/2" of inner clearance makes a difference flexing 37s. :jk:
Advertisement

 

Halstem1

Well-Known Member
First Name
Mike
Joined
Jun 23, 2019
Messages
1,048
Reaction score
666
Location
Grimes, IA
Vehicle(s)
2019 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon
Tough to tell based on a pic...but it looks like 17x9 with 4.5 backspacing on 37" Toyo MT's. A 17x9 wheel with 4.5 backspacing pushes the tire 1/2" further away from the body for 1/2" more inner clearance vs. the 17x8.5 with 4.75 backspacing. I'd definitely go with the 17x9 for clearance for bigger flex wheelin. That extra 1/2" of inner clearance makes a difference flexing 37s. :jk:
Thanks! I think I found a pic of the 17x8.5 on a gladiator and I don’t think they concave as much. So I think you’re right, I think those are 17x9. I was really worried about stuff sticking out too much. Looks, flicking crap on the side, scrub radius.... I just read your build thread. And like you stated there, MC and RK both recommend 4.5 backspacing or less. I fee like that is the “standard”. I don’t know. I also talked to someone on Instagram that has the same 17x8.5 and 4.75 that you do and they wish they had less backspace. Hmmm.
 

ChattVol

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 29, 2018
Messages
2,446
Reaction score
2,627
Location
Tennessee
Vehicle(s)
JLU 4 door
Thanks! I think I found a pic of the 17x8.5 on a gladiator and I don’t think they concave as much. So I think you’re right, I think those are 17x9. I was really worried about stuff sticking out too much. Looks, flicking crap on the side, scrub radius.... I just read your build thread. And like you stated there, MC and RK both recommend 4.5 backspacing or less. I fee like that is the “standard”. I don’t know. I also talked to someone on Instagram that has the same 17x8.5 and 4.75 that you do and they wish they had less backspace. Hmmm.
Yeah...my feedback is based on real life wheelin and I have no ulterior motives and will openly admit when my setup has shortcomings. IMHO, 17x9 wheels with 4.5 backspacing looks nice and symmetrical/stable with 37s on a 2.5-3.5" lift. I'm actually wheel shopping now bc my 37s on 17x8.5 Methods with 4.75 backspacing rub wheelin more than I like with 29" extended shocks in the front. The longer shocks noticeably allow the axle to shift more at full flex and that reduces clearance tucking a tire.

I would venture to guess most people running 37s with 17x8.5 wheels with 4.75 backspacing wont experience the same level of rubbing bc they're running shorter shocks, more than 2" bumpstops, or probably aren't fully flexing and turning much while wheelin. The milestar 37" tire is also a little taller than a 37" BFG ko2/km3 in side by side pics...so that difference could also contribute a little to the rubbing.:flag:
 
Last edited:

Halstem1

Well-Known Member
First Name
Mike
Joined
Jun 23, 2019
Messages
1,048
Reaction score
666
Location
Grimes, IA
Vehicle(s)
2019 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon
Yeah...my feedback is based on real life wheelin and I have no ulterior motives and will openly admit when my setup has shortcomings. IMHO, 17x9 wheels with 4.5 backspacing looks nice and symmetrical/stable with 37s on a 2.5-3.5" lift. I'm actually wheel shopping now bc my 37s on 17x8.5 Methods with 4.75 backspacing rub wheelin more than I like with 29" extended shocks in the front. The longer shocks noticeably allow the axle to shift more at full flex and that reduces clearance tucking a tire.

I would venture to guess most people running 37s with 17x8.5 wheels with 4.75 backspacing wont experience the same level of rubbing bc they're running shorter shocks, more than 2" bumpstops, or probably aren't fully flexing and turning much while wheelin. The milestar 37" tire is also a little taller than a 37" BFG ko2/km3 in side by side pics...so that difference could also contribute a little to the rubbing.:flag:
I 100% appreciate your feedback. I need to quit over-researching stuff and trust the research and experience of others. I feel like overwhelming majority advised to do a MC or RK lift and I didn’t. Now replacing everything with MC after wasting a bunch of money with other brands.

Just ordered some method 312s in 17x9. I do plan on upgrading to MC 3.5” Springs soon to make it look more proportional. That was the goal anyway. Also allows some flexibility in the future if I do decide to go with a bigger tire.
 

dspilman

Well-Known Member
First Name
Dan
Joined
Dec 23, 2018
Messages
308
Reaction score
667
Location
Los Angeles, CA
Vehicle(s)
2019 JL Rubicon 2-Door 3.6L Manual, 1997 TJ Sport 2-Door 4.0L Manual;
Occupation
Architect
Method MR606, 37x13.5s.

36DFE34A-72A6-495D-B10C-587E2E5EDC01.jpeg


FBE6C266-96D3-4012-8FB3-BEEB69819FA2.jpeg
 

Halstem1

Well-Known Member
First Name
Mike
Joined
Jun 23, 2019
Messages
1,048
Reaction score
666
Location
Grimes, IA
Vehicle(s)
2019 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon
Is there a preferred black lug nut to use with method wheels??? Is there a reason or benefit to the spline style? I thought this would be an easy forum search but there is a lot of confusing info. Thanks.
 

RubiSc0tt

Well-Known Member
First Name
Scott
Joined
Jun 12, 2018
Messages
946
Reaction score
1,011
Location
Upstate NY
Vehicle(s)
2019 JLUR in Punk'n Orange
Build Thread
Link
Occupation
Turn Wrenches/ Write code
Is there a preferred black lug nut to use with method wheels??? Is there a reason or benefit to the spline style? I thought this would be an easy forum search but there is a lot of confusing info. Thanks.
According to my buddy who runs his own Customs shop: The biggest advantage to spline drive is that it's an extra layer of deterrent if someone wants to steal your wheels. Sure, they are common enough to have adapters floating around out there- but unless they're professionals or specifically casing your vehicle, they're going to see the spline drive, and move on. Not sure if it's 100% accurate but he knows enough people on both sides of the law to have a fairly good input.

Can't really help on Brand as I've had the same difficulties. All I can say is look for one piece set, not the kind with an outer casing that just goes over a hex lug..
 

Namib

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 14, 2018
Messages
619
Reaction score
1,899
Location
Arizona
Vehicle(s)
2018 JLUR
Vehicle Showcase
1
The bolts are supposedly removable but the simulated ring is not so after scraping them up off-road it’s probably not all that worth it to put new bolts in when the wheel is all scraped up. JMO.
For what it's worth - I added custom "rings" to Method 307s.
Rings 1.jpg
Rings 2.jpg
 

redracer

Well-Known Member
First Name
Robert
Joined
Aug 22, 2017
Messages
283
Reaction score
322
Location
Manteca, CA
Vehicle(s)
2018 JLU Rubicon
18 JLUR with MetalCloak 2.5 Dual Rate lift with Rocksport shocks, Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ P3 315/70R17 tires, on Method 701 wheels 17" x 8.5" with 4.75bs and 0 offset.

PXL_20200915_235027090.jpg


PXL_20200915_235050435.jpg
 
Last edited:

Halstem1

Well-Known Member
First Name
Mike
Joined
Jun 23, 2019
Messages
1,048
Reaction score
666
Location
Grimes, IA
Vehicle(s)
2019 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon
MR305 NV's & 35" Nitto Ridge Grapplers

fullsizeoutput_10d4.jpeg


fullsizeoutput_10d5.jpeg


IMG_7898.JPG
Did your MR305s come with the gold zinc bolts in the faux ring? or did you swap them out? My MR312 came with stainless bolts and I prefer the look of the gold zinc or even a black bolt. Debating swapping them or painting my stainless bolts black. Thanks.
 
Advertisement

Tazer JL - Z Automotive
 
Advertisement
Top