Jeep Tracking Driving Behavior Now

[CUCUMBA]

All new vehicles have tracking capabilities. The only way to avoid the issue is to drive older cars or live in a state that does not allow insurance companies to use the data. When I was having CAN bus issues, I frequently was driving 158 mph in my driveway.

But, things are about to get a lot worse…



Features to prevent drunk driving will be required for all new vehicles no later than 2026.

Oh no! A way to prevent drunk drivers, EGREGIOUS!

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[DubaiMarauder]

Where in the warranty does it say we have to drive a certain way- disclaimer, I'm not reading it! Also, pretty sure it is illegal to sell that info without our consent. I'd prefer to truly know what it's for before inconveniencing myself and disabling features.

Its a legal grey area. They intentionally bury the "Do Not Sell My Info" in places nobody looks, so when you miss it or don't fill it out, they say you gave implied consent. Life360 has been selling people's info to insurance companies and they just recently got in trouble for it. 99% of the time, you have to hunt down the settings and manually turn off all permission parameters, and even then, they say it's take 30 days to "update in their system.".

Define “hard” , and who/what is interpreting the definition ? Heck, to me the 4 & 6 cyl Wranglers are incapable of “hard” acceleration.
IE - define a “long” trip? To me it was driving from Vancouver island straight home to central Ca….. My wife was B I itching about it from about Portland

A lot of times, a "hard acceleration" has less to do with the g-forces exerted on the vehicle and strain on the drivetrain and is typically calculated by an increase of +/-8mph OR above a certain % of throttle input at a given speed. If you're doing 55mph and the throttle is holding 55mph at 45% throttle input and it suddenly records a jump to 100% input, the system assumes you floored it and records a hard acceleration. Works the same way in reverse as well, but with the brake pedal.

 

[2nd 392]

Its a legal grey area. They intentionally bury the "Do Not Sell My Info" in places nobody looks, so when you miss it or don't fill it out, they say you gave implied consent. Life360 has been selling people's info to insurance companies and they just recently got in trouble for it. 99% of the time, you have to hunt down the settings and manually turn off all permission parameters, and even then, they say it's take 30 days to "update in their system.".

A lot of times, a "hard acceleration" has less to do with the g-forces exerted on the vehicle and strain on the drivetrain and is typically calculated by an increase of +/-8mph OR above a certain % of throttle input at a given speed. If you're doing 55mph and the throttle is holding 55mph at 45% throttle input and it suddenly records a jump to 100% input, the system assumes you floored it and records a hard acceleration. Works the same way in reverse as well, but with the brake pedal.

I see, so you get dinged for passing, got it…… circumstances that defined numbers settings cannot account for vary. Like passing uphill, towing, and or on a two lane road. How about slamming on the brakes like when passing an occupied turn lane like my GC does. I now take the long way to avoid the turn lane on a curve after the third time and figuring out the cause.

 

[sunset]

What the fuck kinda hard acceleration are you doing in a jeep wrangler lmao. Unless it's a 392 anyway.

I have a 392 and seem to always score 1 hard acceleration and 1 hard braking per trip. I'm thinking it's due to me wanting to back into my garage upon arrival home. I live on an arterial city street and have a short driveway. I turn my front end into the oncoming lane a few feet beyond my driveway, breaking hard I suppose as I gotta do this quickly with oncoming traffic on this arterial, then I accelerate in reverse and not always mildly until my Jeep clears the street and its back end gets to the garage door opening where I brake again then proceed slowly through the door opening, listening to all of the perimeter beeps that ensue. Because of the arterial, I've learned it's better to back up upon arrival when I have a better command of the street view than to back up upon departure when I'd have to twist my neck left and right especially if next door neighbors have their cars parked on the street.

 

[DubaiMarauder]

I see, so you get dinged for passing, got it…… circumstances that defined numbers settings cannot account for vary. Like passing uphill, towing, and or on a two lane road. How about slamming on the brakes like when passing an occupied turn lane like my GC does. I now take the long way to avoid the turn lane on a curve after the third time and figuring out the cause.

Not necessarily dinged for passing. Only when a massive spike in throttle input or brake input is realized by the computer. Every vehicle telematics system has its own parameters from the manufacturer, most acceptable ranges are within 15-20% difference from last state. If you're doing 55mph at 45% throttle input and increase it to 60% input to pass, the system doesn't record a hard acceleration. Now if you get impatient and stomp on it to get around that retard in their Tesla who's always on their phone and jerk it into the next lane, then duh, it's gonna record a hard acceleration and turn. Same thing with hard braking. Slow controlled stops vs locking it up.

Sometimes shit happens, you catch the light at the wrong time, people do dumb shit it front of you and you have to react and brake hard or perform and evasive maneuver. That's one of the reasons tailgating and speeding is such a bad idea. If you just do the speed limit and leave more than ample space ahead of you, these things become less of an issue. Let the impatient drivers go around you.

A good example of this is to watch how most truckers drive very defensively. Slow accelerations, leaving ample distance ahead when at speed, early braking. It's not only safer, but also less wear and tear on vehicle components.

 

[2nd 392]

Not necessarily dinged for passing. Only when a massive spike in throttle input or brake input is realized by the computer. Every vehicle telematics system has its own parameters from the manufacturer, most acceptable ranges are within 15-20% difference from last state. If you're doing 55mph at 45% throttle input and increase it to 60% input to pass, the system doesn't record a hard acceleration. Now if you get impatient and stomp on it to get around that retard in their Tesla who's always on their phone and jerk it into the next lane, then duh, it's gonna record a hard acceleration and turn. Same thing with hard braking. Slow controlled stops vs locking it up.

Sometimes shit happens, you catch the light at the wrong time, people do dumb shit it front of you and you have to react and brake hard or perform and evasive maneuver. That's one of the reasons tailgating and speeding is such a bad idea. If you just do the speed limit and leave more than ample space ahead of you, these things become less of an issue. Let the impatient drivers go around you.

A good example of this is to watch how most truckers drive very defensively. Slow accelerations, leaving ample distance ahead when at speed, early braking. It's not only safer, but also less wear and tear on vehicle components.

Oh yeah, retired trucker, that lived in the foothills with a 65 mi commute on a highly traveled mostly 2 lane road with short passing lanes going to the lake, casinos and mountains. Big rigs, sightseers, boaters and other idgits having consumed adult beverages all day, and of course the RV’s from Hell. When the opportunity comes you mash, go around, and get away from them as quickly as possible.

 

[F4Flyer]

I just tin foil myself before each drive. Seems to work.

 

[Kyanche]

Because of the arterial, I've learned it's better to back up upon arrival when I have a better command of the street view than to back up upon departure when I'd have to twist my neck left and right especially if next door neighbors have their cars parked on the street.

Oh no I understand EXACTLY what you're talking about. I live on a busy street as well and back into my driveway.

Thankfully I usually don't have to be that abrupt with my moves, except when I happen to be getting home during a busy time of day. Gotta love the people who lay on their horn when you slow down to get into your driveway.

 

[sunset]

Gotta love the people who lay on their horn when you slow down to get into your driveway.

Once, I did the backing maneuver with my other car. Not a busy time of day. I slowed down in front of my driveway, operated my handheld garage door opener, and turned my vehicle into the oncoming lane and started to put it into reverse.

Now, there were no cars anywhere else on the road at this time of day except for one fellow who came up behind me in my lane and decided while I was beginning to reverse that he wanted to squeeze between my car and my driveway to get past me. I guess he could not grasp the meaning of an open garage door and my car half-ass in the street with back-end aiming towards said open garage door, as he honked like I was in his way.

I stopped my car, still in the street, and it so happened my driver-side window could not roll down at the time, so I opened the car door and since it was a low-to-the-ground Camaro I got out to stand up and move aside from my tinted door window so that he could see me, and I demonstrably pointed to my open garage door, jabbing my finger several times into the air, staring at him and saying forcefully and loudly, I LIVE HERE! I was starting to get mad at his myopic selfishness.

Not sure if he heard me within his enclosed car but he saw me get back in and finish my entrance into my garage. Gee, did it finally dawn on him what I was up to in all of this? I guess he waited around until I was done, this man in a hurry, specifically so I would be available to see him flip me the bird as he drove off.

It was a nice, sunny day otherwise.

 

[2019JLUS]

Wow no wonder the new sport models also have the enormous 12” radio. All models are forced to have the large fancy radio now. I was wondering why

 

[roaniecowpony]

Oh boy did you guys screw up! You think they don't monitor this site? You don't already know who the undercover agent is here? Have fun in Quantanimo...

 

[Bulletbill]

holy shit…I suggest everyone park their Jeep outside, douse it in gasoline, and set that government data collecting snitch of a Jeep on fire . Killing it by fire is the only way to be sure.

Once its gone, sit back and know that you have done your part in keeping the rest of us safe.

Please note, this post in no way is encouraging you to lower the inventory of used vehicles, thereby making my Jeep more valuable in the process.

Seriously, I am only posting this because I am also against “big brother and their corporate cronies collecting on us.”

I am sure people in the know will do their part

 

[Ratbert]

Wow no wonder the new sport models also have the enormous 12” radio. All models are forced to have the large fancy radio now. I was wondering why

One radio verses three? One dash configuration versus three? I'd expect to see more reduction in needless configuration options like this as they tighten their belts.

 

[dstevens]

I have a 392 and seem to always score 1 hard acceleration and 1 hard braking per trip.

I get 1 hard acceleration and 1 hard turning when I move the Jeep out of the garage at the bottom of the property and drive it 250 feet up to the house at a couple of mph.

This is why I don't think insurance companies should get the information.

 

[GinaC]

A good example of this is to watch how most truckers drive very defensively. Slow accelerations, leaving ample distance ahead when at speed, early braking. It's not only safer, but also less wear and tear on vehicle components.

Speaking of leaving ample distance between cars, am I the only one who feels that the max range on the ACC is still too short?

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