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It is marketing... they are getting exactly what they want. The day before the Bronco is shown people are talking about the wrangler. To me this shows that FCA is worried about what's about to come. Why wait this long, and even give interviews that a v8 is not possible due to safety concerns and then the day before Bronco all the sudden it's doable? This is no different than all the Bronco "leaks" that came from Ford. It is a brilliant marketing ploy to give those that feel a V8 is " required" hope to stick with FCA longer now that Ford has shown the 2.7 will be a choice that outguns the options FCA has on the table. I would buy a v8 Grand Cherokee in a heartbeat, wrangler not so much. I want the ability to do 150 miles in the desert / mountains in 4 low if needed. A hemi wrangler is not going to do that.. now if I had a purpose built trail rig that does smaller runs, hemi all the way. For daily driver I would want the eco diesel or a new inline turbo 6.
I agree with you. But the inline-6 isn't ready. If they tease the V8 on Instagram and don't follow through it is a fail. I can't see them doing that.

If they wanted to do that they would put out a leak through a journalist - not publish a photo on their Instagram account.

I don't know why I am posting on this so much. I don't really care. I would never buy the Hemi.



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I agree with you. But the inline-6 isn't ready. If they tease the V8 on Instagram and don't follow through it is a fail. I can't see them doing that.

If they wanted to do that they would put out a leak through a journalist - not publish a photo on their Instagram account.

I don't know why I am posting on this so much. I don't really care. I would never buy the Hemi.
I agree with you. I also would not buy the Hemi in a Wrangler (but love that engine). I am also baffled by this as it will anger a lot of people if it is not true. Really trying to figure this out myself as well just because it makes no sense. If they made the nose longer to fit the hemi and meet crash requirements it would lose off-road capability. But would sure sound awesome!
 

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Interesting point. Almost like IF they do add it to the Wrangler, they know people will buy it and it just adds money to their pocket at the same time. For a 10+ year old motor (?) I guess that's good for FCA right....

I posted opposing viewpoints on this, but with my Bronco fetish creeping up if it was an I6 like my old BMW N55 motor...this would make my decision very difficult...that's how much I liked that I6!!
I ran the great granddaddy of the i6 in the XJs in my ‘49 Fargo. Smooth, never stopped, and dirt simple to work on. An L head would be horrible for emissions now, but when the battery was dead, clutch and a push got it going again.

The MOPAR slant six was a marvel too. Inline sixes are nearly perfect engines.
 

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That weighs nothing compared to a JL. Also the modern transmissions are tuned to not to transfer the oomph like that probably to avoid just that kind of thing (the Demon being an exception)
I wasn't trying to argue, just wanted to share a video of a Jeep doing a wheelie...

But since we are on the subject, I'll do some BS math.
  • 2-door JL minimum weight ~4000 lbs
  • Figure 2/3 weight on front 2,666 lbs
  • 8.8' wheelbase x front weight = ~23,460 lbs of force needed to wheelie
  • 4.71 1st gear ratio (auto) x 4.10 axle = 19.311 gearing reduction, x2 because torque converter
  • Tire radius of 1.5'
  • 'Bout 900 lb-ft of torque should do it. That's not factoring in the high center of gravity or the fact that the massive suspension up-travel would get momentum in it's favor.
 

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I wasn't trying to argue, just wanted to share a video of a Jeep doing a wheelie...

But since we are on the subject, I'll do some BS math.
  • 2-door JL minimum weight ~4000 lbs
  • Figure 2/3 weight on front 2,666 lbs
  • 8.8' wheelbase x front weight = ~23,460 lbs of force needed to wheelie
  • 4.71 1st gear ratio (auto) x 4.10 axle = 19.311 gearing reduction, x2 because torque converter
  • Tire radius of 1.5'
  • 'Bout 900 lb-ft of torque should do it. That's not factoring in the high center of gravity or the fact that the massive suspension up-travel would get momentum in it's favor.
According to Prodigy, their turbo kit makes about 700 HP
prodigy-jeep-wheelie.jpg
 

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I wasn't trying to argue, just wanted to share a video of a Jeep doing a wheelie...

But since we are on the subject, I'll do some BS math.
  • 2-door JL minimum weight ~4000 lbs
  • Figure 2/3 weight on front 2,666 lbs
  • 8.8' wheelbase x front weight = ~23,460 lbs of force needed to wheelie
  • 4.71 1st gear ratio (auto) x 4.10 axle = 19.311 gearing reduction, x2 because torque converter
  • Tire radius of 1.5'
  • 'Bout 900 lb-ft of torque should do it. That's not factoring in the high center of gravity or the fact that the massive suspension up-travel would get momentum in it's favor.
I know you weren't arguing :) Just haven't experienced anything close to a wheelie even from a supercharged jeep that has a power to weight of a 6.4 with less weight up front.
 

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To get 700 you need to do the internals and that's a JK. Prodigy has been a mess with JLs because of their tuning.
But the point was that 700 HP = wheelies in a JK. A Hellcat engine in a lifted JL (2-door) would likely do wheelies also.
 

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Let's bring this back on topic... I'm waiting for the 392 and the half doors. These two should have been there from the start.

This might have been in the works since Feb 2019 or earlier according to this video:
 

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Let's bring this back on topic... I'm waiting for the 392 and the half doors. These two should have been there from the start.
Not to mention a 2-dr Hemi Gladiator.
 

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Remember, it's on a Wrangler, so you have to flip it over to read it correctly:

26E

So it's probably the electric wrangler.
 

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